Joseph Frank posted:CTSRapid posted:Chris584 posted:Thanks for the details Joe. I must admit that whilst aware of the window frames (and the destination roll sign details on the sides being different from the R12), I didn't realise that the roofs didn't have the same details as an R17.
I will continue to look for a couple of bodyshells for now, but may have to bite the bullet and put my existing cars under the knife! I think your model is perfect and will be looking at it for details come the day of the operation
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Chris-
Actually, there may be a middle way. However, if you're looking to match the excellence of Joe Frank, then read no further. In this niche, Joe is the Gold Standard and that's all there is to it. So I used the MTH maroon R17 as my kitbash platform for three reasons. First, that beautiful MTH maroon paint finish is a big step forward. Second, there's that great round porthole storm door already built in. Third, that as-delivered livery is the way I remember them as a kid in Jackson Heights. I did recognize the liabilities going in- roof deviation, door inconsistency, etc. plus Joe was kind enough to detail them several months ago, and his comments were spot on. In the immortal words of Clint Eastwood, "A man's got to know his limitations", and I know mine. And as far as MTH goes, fuggedaboudit- the 7 Train keeps pulling out every night for my demographic. At least there may be another option.
Hello CTS Rapids !!
Thanks for the glowing compliments !! While I known my modeling work is good, there are others in our small traction -transit very tiny built it from scratch fraternity whose modeling work equals, and in some cases - somewhat surpasses, my work. IO am much inspired by the work and ideas of others.
I have cleaned up your two R-15 car model photos to show more details --- your 2 kit-bash R-15's from an R-17 still look fabulous ! I said this to you on another posting somewhere else in this subways forum some time ago. Especially the paint job and re-worked windows. I know you have the skills to make, create, in either thin brass sheet, or thin styrene sheet, two long blank "riveted" panels to cover the R-17 Roof vents, and paint same to match the maroon paint. This will further complete the look of these otherwise fine looking R-15 cars. Even tho the doorsets are staggered, you can only see ONE SIDE of the car at one time (unless you use a mirror on the opposite side, heh) . And the entire rest of the carbody gives that distinct R-15 "look" including the 1950 factory era paint scheme!
I rode the R-12-14- and 15 cars on the IRT Flushing line many times in the 1950's to mid 1960's, when the 1964 IRT R-33-S and R-36 "picture window" sky blue and white Worlds Fair SMEE cars replaced them on the Flushing line -- so I remember them well, and even after they were sent to the IRT mainlines in 1963-1964.
Regards - Joe F !
Joe-
GREAT photo re-edits! Is there anything you don't do well?
