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Need help from someone who has a Premier H-9 2-8-0 for motor fitting

Hey all,

I've got a Premier H-9 Consolidation that was originally configured for PS2.  I assume it's a variation of item number 20-3098-1 that I bought empty from the MTH auction and finally getting around to filling her up with some guts.

Got the electrical figured out for a PS3 board, but I'm struggling with the motor selection and motor mount / Flywheel.  There just doesn't seem to be enough room at all for what I am doing if I'm going to use a 'typical' premier steam setup with a large motor and dogbone coupling.  The chassis already has the worm and the dogbone coupling going into the gearbox, so I know that's right. But  I made up a 3D model of my chassis and mount dimensions (measured directly from my actual chassis and shell and...well I don't get it.

I had a couple Pittman 9434 motors but they are by far too big / long to fit into the tight area.  I tried with a 3-D model of a Mabuchi 555, but even that seems to be too big for what I can fit in.  In my image below, I've drawn the exact position of the dogbone coupler and worm shaft, then you see a 30mm flywheel 10mm thick (which is the thinnest flywheel that I can find with the dogbone coupling installed), then a space for a mount bracket (that doesn't look like it will fit in front of the frame edge along the red line) then an RS555 motor.

I have to keep the motor between the two planes shown in blue / orange in order to clear the inside of the shell, and there are only two mount holes for a motor mount in the frame instead of a more typical 3 or 4.

Can anyone who has worked on one of these let me know

  • (a) is this actually a front flywheel mount or is it a rear mount?
  • (b) does the premier H-9 use a large 555 type motor or does it use one of the smaller motors like you would find in the diesels?
  • (c) What mount bracket does it use (it's not on the MTH site, nor is any other 2-8-0 H-9.  There's a 2-8-4 parts list that shows what appears to be an incompatible mount bracket)

Photos of what I've got: Thanks for your help!

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