Peter, the short answer is "No". My goal was just to see what the grades were going to be like. My first try had a crossover there and the grade started after that. Unfortunately that resulted in a 10%+ grade and I knew that wasn't going to be acceptable. I wanted to see if Mark was okay with the almost 6% grade on the inside of the curved siding (which I think is still too steep) as well as what I did with the curved siding and turntables. I think there's still room to widen the Figure 8 a bit to put the connecting tracks on the same level as the switch, but GarGraves doesn't have anything less than 6.2", so I also needed to get an idea of how willing Mark is to cut and bend track. And since he's adding access hatches, I'm also wondering if he's willing to alter his bench work a bit, something like this. Trouble is he might have to use the hatches more often than he wants to.