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My layout is in the basement of a house built in 2005. With tmcc signal using the ground wire of a houses electrical wiring, there is very little wiring close to the layout, but there is a lot of copper plumbing overhead. For some reason the plumbing is not grounded to the breaker box in this house. More then likely I believe they didn't bother because the house's water supply comes into the house through a plastic pipe coming from a drilled well. The only ground I see is a ground rod driven in the ground outside below the meter. My thoughts were to run a ground wire from the steel well casing, which is about 25', to the point where the plumbing changes from plastic to copper and then a ground wire from the closest copper pipe to the breaker panel. My concern, is there any safety reason the plumbing is not grounded to the panel in this house? There are large oak trees near the well and maybe lightning striking one of them would energize the house's plumbing.  My question, will the tmcc signal even use the plumbing if I do this? I do have a whole house surge protector I can add to the panel.

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No, don't do any of that.

The TMCC signal is capacitively coupled to the house wiring ground wire. The signal rides piggyback over your house wiring. That's all there is to it. Terms like earth ground and ground plane are misleading. If you have a weak signal, connect a thin wire to the center screw on your outlet or to pin #5 of the DB9 socket on your TMCC or Legacy base.

I think the national electrical code still requires connecting copper plumbing to the breaker panel ground for safety reasons.

Thanks CJACK, Thought maybe my weak signal was because most of the house's wiring was in the 2 floors above me. I'll give that a try. The inspectors phone number is on the panel. I better give him a call to see why he passed it without the grounded plumbing. Some trees around the house do have lightning damage down their sides from the past. Lost a thousand dollar TV last summer. Thank God no other damage.

I guess that in a perfect RF transmit/receive scenario, the Command/Legacy bases would have a discrete "pin 5" output and require the operator to run a transmit ground plane wire from that point.   But since house wiring is pervasive in most rooms, it functions as a convenient pre-installed ground plane.   Sometimes the house wiring is not sufficient, so you have to supplement it with ground plane wires.  It could be as simple as running some extension cords under or above the layout, or a ground plane wire to the copper pipes above your layout.

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