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Originally Posted by Brewman1973:
 

Hi CW,  I added a video in a new thread.  It looks like the mechanism is plastic.

I appreciate the video but was hoping to see the 726 in action.  I've never used any newer Lionel in conventional mode.  I have the postwar 726 (purchased new by my father) a regular under the tree runner till this year.  Thanks for the photos, John

Originally Posted by Hugh Laubis:

Shines too much!

Spray it with dul lcoat!

 

Only kidding.....

Enjoy & Merry Christmas!

Hugh has tongue in cheek on this one. I am guessing that he is not just kidding. That is the same advice He gave to me for the steamer I had repainted by Elliot at York. I could not wait 50 years for the shine to disappear so I sprayed on dullcoat and it looks great. He was RIGHT! 

 

Have a Merry Christmas

Originally Posted by EJN:

Can someone post a video of the loco running. Hope its not a noisy can of rocks like the pwcs 736 of 5 -6 yrs ago. Similar drive train hopefully better qc and less racket.


OK,  I added a very short video, the whisle is really loud and has almost an echo quality to it.  The engine is a very quiet and smooth runner.

Thanks for the video of the loco. Sounds all good. Not too noisy and great whistle to my ears.  If it raised a racket the prebuy would have to go by by.

 

My  PWCS 736 of 2006-'07 is nice too look at static but what a noisy racket of a drive train. Finally sent it off to Timko's for conversion to DC motor but for the love of RS 5.0 and nice cosmetic appearance. Will be interesting to see how that conversion runs the rails.

I pre-ordered the passenger set from Charlie Ro. I called them today and was told that they are supposed to get them by the 27th of this month. I can not wait to get my hands on it! Is there a seperate sale 2626 Sager Place observation car available? I believe the set comes with three coaches, correct? Thanks guys!

Cobrabob.

Originally Posted by Richard Gonzales:

Brewman 73,

 

I guess I missed that Merchandise car in the catalog. Please post some pictures of it and let us know how it works. Maybe someone can compare it to an original. I had one of the original 3854's, but I traded it off years ago because I could not figure out how to open it up in order to work on it.

 

Great pictures!

 

Richard

I postest a separate thread on the car, here is a link and the video again. Its really cool!

 

https://ogrforum.com/d...nt/11848460536516742





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Originally Posted by Brewman1973:

There are traction tires on the back wheel set.  The magnetraction seems very light to me, I have a picture of my 736 and the wheels are holding a nail, the new 726 can't.  


The back wheels have traction tires

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The 736 can still hold a nail, the new CC726 had very little magnetraction
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My 736
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the new CC 726
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I don't recall magenetraction listed as a feature in the catalog for the new Berk; only traction tires, unless I overlooked it.

 

Since the Lionel "Baldwin discs" are two piece, with solid metal wheels with nickel-plated rims/"tires",  I would find it very unlikely the new Berk has magnetraction at all, since the nickle-plated rims are non-magnetic. The postwar version (actually all Lionel steamers) that have nickel-plated rims did not have magnetraction either.  The 736 has regular solid, one-piece metal spoke wheels (no plated rims) so obviously magnetraction will work on that. 

Last edited by John Korling
Originally Posted by Jim Rotella:

That set looks great. I can't wait to get mine. It looks just like the one shown in the opening scene of the 1949 movie "Holiday Affair". Robert Mitchum was running a Berkshire passenger set on a department store layout in front a bunch of excited kids. It was probably a '48 or '49 set.

 

 

 

How cool is that! I never heard of the movie! Just found it and it looks like they have it all messed up..LOL. It's a 2333 Santa Fe F3 pulling the three Madison cars. Then comes the 726 Berkshire pulling 2400 series green pullmans. Early 250W ZW.

 

A little later on it looks like there is a 115 or 117 on a 124 terrace in the background. VERY difficult to see though.

Originally Posted by Brewman1973:

There are traction tires on the back wheel set.  The magnetraction seems very light to me, I have a picture of my 736 and the wheels are holding a nail, the new 726 can't.  


The back wheels have traction tires

DSC_0312

The 736 can still hold a nail, the new CC726 had very little magnetraction
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I don't recall magenetraction listed as a feature in the catalog for the new Berk; only traction tires, unless I overlooked it.

 

Since the Lionel "Baldwin discs" are two piece, with solid metal wheels with nickel-plated rims/"tires",  I would find it very unlikely the new Berk has magnetraction at all, since the nickle-plated rims are non-magnetic. The postwar version (actually all Lionel steamers) that have nickel-plated rims did not have magnetraction either.  The 736 has regular solid, one-piece metal spoke wheels (no plated rims) so obviously magnetraction will work on that. 

So is there Magne-Traction on this one? The Lionel web site says it was supposed to. Not that that means anything either way. Does anyone have a running review now that they've had 'em for a week or so and the new-ness has worn off?

 

Sam

I would say there is no magnatraction since I see the location where the magnet would be is empty on the new engine.  You can see the magnet between the third and fourth drivers on the old 736 and you can see the empty spot where the magnet would be on the new 726.
 
Of course the original 726 frame never had that magnet spot since it did not have magnetraction.
 
I can't wait for both of these sets to show up on my door step.
 
Originally Posted by Sam Jumper:
Originally Posted by Brewman1973:

There are traction tires on the back wheel set.  The magnetraction seems very light to me, I have a picture of my 736 and the wheels are holding a nail, the new 726 can't.  


The back wheels have traction tires

DSC_0312

The 736 can still hold a nail, the new CC726 had very little magnetraction
DSC_0313

DSC_0315

I don't recall magenetraction listed as a feature in the catalog for the new Berk; only traction tires, unless I overlooked it.

 

Since the Lionel "Baldwin discs" are two piece, with solid metal wheels with nickel-plated rims/"tires",  I would find it very unlikely the new Berk has magnetraction at all, since the nickle-plated rims are non-magnetic. The postwar version (actually all Lionel steamers) that have nickel-plated rims did not have magnetraction either.  The 736 has regular solid, one-piece metal spoke wheels (no plated rims) so obviously magnetraction will work on that. 

So is there Magne-Traction on this one? The Lionel web site says it was supposed to. Not that that means anything either way. Does anyone have a running review now that they've had 'em for a week or so and the new-ness has worn off?

 

Sam

 

Originally Posted by Dennis Holler:
I would say there is no magnatraction since I see the location where the magnet would be is empty on the new engine.  You can see the magnet between the third and fourth drivers on the old 736 and you can see the empty spot where the magnet would be on the new 726.
 
Of course the original 726 frame never had that magnet spot since it did not have magnetraction.
 
I can't wait for both of these sets to show up on my door step.
 
Originally Posted by Sam Jumper:
Originally Posted by Brewman1973:

There are traction tires on the back wheel set.  The magnetraction seems very light to me, I have a picture of my 736 and the wheels are holding a nail, the new 726 can't.  


The back wheels have traction tires

DSC_0312

The 736 can still hold a nail, the new CC726 had very little magnetraction
DSC_0313

DSC_0315

I don't recall magenetraction listed as a feature in the catalog for the new Berk; only traction tires, unless I overlooked it.

 

Since the Lionel "Baldwin discs" are two piece, with solid metal wheels with nickel-plated rims/"tires",  I would find it very unlikely the new Berk has magnetraction at all, since the nickle-plated rims are non-magnetic. The postwar version (actually all Lionel steamers) that have nickel-plated rims did not have magnetraction either.  The 736 has regular solid, one-piece metal spoke wheels (no plated rims) so obviously magnetraction will work on that. 

So is there Magne-Traction on this one? The Lionel web site says it was supposed to. Not that that means anything either way. Does anyone have a running review now that they've had 'em for a week or so and the new-ness has worn off?

 

Sam

 

Seems like the roller pickups are very close to the frame. Anyone else notice this. Also it was mentioned that the madison cars had doors that opened. Is that just like the originals, I did not think so.

That style of pickup is refered to as the "late" Berk pickup or single screw type.  It was used on the later 736, 746, etc after about 1954 or 55 ( would need to check the year but suffice it to say middle to late 50's).  The earlier angle motor engine's all had a pickup that used two mounting screw's and of course the horizontal motor 1946 only engine used the multi screw retainer plate to hold the drivers in place as well.

 

I just got my delivery (thanks Charlie Ro) for the pass set, so I can compare it to my original 1947 Berk  (2131WS) for fun to see if there are other differences in the rollers, arms, etc.  There are many differences of course, although I am not very conserned with any of them to be honest.

I just got my set this morning. I briefly ran the engine and tender on my layout and they performed flawlessly. The engine ran very smooth from a crawl to full speed pulling a string of 8 PWC freight cars. I haven't had a chance to get out the passenger cars out yet, but I'll do that tonight.

 

I didn't feel any magnetic pull from the drivers and when comparing this engine to my PWC 736 Berkshire, I found that there was no magnet between the last two sets of drivers...only an empty cavity. I know someone else had mentioned this earlier in this thread. Despite the fact these engines are not being produced with"magne-traction, the instruction booklet still claims they're equipped with it. My engine seems to pull very well without magne-traction because the rubber traction tires really grip the track well.

 

I wouldn't let the lack of magne-traction stop anyone from buying this set because I think it's well worth the money, even without that feature. This 726 runs much smoother than my PWC 736, which means someone at Lionel must have paid attention to the complaints they received on their last attempt at a postwar Berkshire engine.

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