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Cruse control question?

L Lionelzwl2012OGR Forum Member
I have seen some great deals on the forum here with engines I would like to have in my collection.
My question is they have either TAS EOB cruise or lionel oddesy cruise control in them. I have never had an engine with either one.
What issues with either one should I be asking the buyer about or staying away from?
How do you know witch version of oddesy is in the lionel engines. They have made some oddesy upgrades to improve them over time haven't they?
I suppose with the lionel oddesy I could just replace it with the Err cruse comander m, but if the engines cruise is working fine I would like to not have to factor in this in my  buying desion.
Any info would be welcome from user with these systems. Thanks!
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gunrunnerjohngunrunnerjohnOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBERDIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

Well, some Odyssey I engines work great, others have some issues.  The biggest issue I have with the original Odyssey is the "lerch" when you first power on and sometimes when you get a brief power interrupt, say going over a switch.  It doesn't happen on every Odyssey I engine, but it happens on enough of them to annoy me.

 

As far as TAS EOB, my major issue with that is the response curve with speed changes, but you get used to that in time.

 

As you say, you can replace the Odyssey with a Cruise Commander M, but the TAS EOB is typically a single motherboard with all the Lionel TMCC/RailSounds boards on it, so replacing it's driver is more complicated.

 

I have a number of both types, and the Odyssey ones that didn't give me issues are still original.  I live with the TAS EOB as well, but some days it still annoys me.

 

Marty FitzhenryMarty FitzhenryOGR Forum Member MEMORIALIZED MEMBER

Years ago at York,  I had a chance to run the real Odyssey motor on the Lionel test layout outside the Yellow hall.  The motor was very impressive.  Lionel did not go into full production with it and produced the Odyssey system instead. 

 

John is correct on the early Odyssey locomotives.  I feel OK with Legacy but was not a fan of the early Odyssey system.

F FfffredddOGR Forum Member
Hi John, I can not help from laughing when I see your posts with the word "lerch". I am sure you mean lurch and not sure if you are using lerch in jest or not. It is mostly used as urban slang. Old English letich. 1 : the act of lurking while in the perched position; usually outside someones window or home looking in, or out depending on the object being lerched upon. a very tall person. someone so tall it is said they are lerching around. krissa-heyy. stanley ross is a lerch! a white guy who acts tough to hide his weaknesses
Marty FitzhenryMarty FitzhenryOGR Forum Member MEMORIALIZED MEMBER

The odyssey motor was a brushless motor that looked a bit like an alternator turned on it's side.  They had the capability of plugging one into the other for extra power.  Lionel had several of them in test locomotives.   If the people at Lionel today were involved back then, it would have been a great thing.

 

gunrunnerjohngunrunnerjohnOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBERDIGITAL SUBSCRIBER
Originally Posted by Ffffreddd:
Hi John, I can not help from laughing when I see your posts with the word "lerch". I am sure you mean lurch and not sure if you are using lerch in jest or not. It is mostly used as urban slang.

It's just my speeling is not what it used to be.

 

I always manage to type the wrong word there, and the spelling checker doesn't object, so I don't notice.

 

 

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