Does the R2LC effect functionality?

Did you do a fill reset, including the AUX1, # for the appropriate engine?  I"m pretty sure from C08 and on the firmware has the same polarity and function for the smoke output.

Hi John,

Yes I did a full reset. I didn't have a replacement "08" board but remembered in answer to another thread that It was possible to test with a different board of higher number - hence my using the R2LC13.

I was hoping that the "13" wouldn't operate the fan smoke unit in which case the nice simple fix would be to get a new R2LC08 from Lionel.

Is this the case do you know?

THanks

CHEERS MIKE

What is the reset code for this steam locomotive? Reset code should be in the literature. There appears to be a couple of different codes for steam with smoke depending on the locomotive. 

I've used the smoke out put terminals on EOB boards to alternately power red/green marker lights with a different code.

I dropped the -C13 into a locomotive on the bench that has the C08, it makes no difference to the smoke unit here.  I believe the C11 and C13 versions were for stuff like Odyssey improvements.  I've used them interchangeably several times with no ill effect.  My test bench board set uses a R2LC-C13 board, it happened to be the one I grabbed and plugged in.

Thanks Mike and John. Mike The right reset was used thanks. So from what you are saying John it looks like there is another problem effecting the smoke unit.

Not what was needed but at least i know!

Thanks

CHEERS MIKE

A key question is, does the fan run and you just don't get heat, or is the fan not running?  What is the exact model of this locomotive?  Many Lionel locomotives have a smoke regulator module that is known to bit the dust from time to time.

Mike,  Your Lionmaster uses the ACREG.  So there are several issues.  The R2LC does control smoke for early Basic TMCC.  If you set the R2LC code wrong you might get pulsing voltage out of the smoke triac instead of steady.

Since your engine uses the ACREG, it receives the serial data and controls smoke unit.  There are also 3 settings.  L, M, H.  Your instructions cover this.  Additionally, these smoke units can benefit from the smoke unit mod.  They are not good smokers to start.

I would do the engine rest using the code in the instructions.  Might be 74.  Than I would follow directions and set smoke level to H High.

Listen for fan running and see if it smokes.  If not as John says need to determine if fan running or not, than is wick burnt, is element open, wired up, smoke switch ok, etc...  If all is good, I would probably change out ACREG.  But smoke switch issues have been problems on these engine also.  Bad switch.  G

Thanks John and GGG for the extra info. Moved switch a number of times just in case it was sticking. There is no heat and no fan running. I know the fan works because I tested it separately. Wick not discolored particularly.

You may wonder why I am messing around with all this given my recent posts/experience with a Lionmaster SD90 and smoke units a week or so ago!! (thanks for your help there as well)

Short answer is I bought of the Bay an early TMCC Lionmaster T1 (sorry dont Have number to hand) Everything about it was great for the good price I paid but on arrival did not run or smoke. Vendor disputes this and we are "in discussion"

It was partly my fault - after checking everything again I got the loco to work with the origional R2LC08 board - but it has signal issues and still no smoke. So I am back with my spare C13 board hence he original question re the smoke operation.Smoke unit  heat or fan have never functioned. The guy I bought it from says it ran fine before shipping and that it can't be at fault as I have all the other functions particularly the rear coupler functioning perfectly.

The vendor looks to be an honest seller and I also know these things can just stop working after a good shake up by UPS!!

Overall I am happy with the engine but although that might sound mad - you just can't get these things in England. hence all the Qs.

I will try another reset + control the smoke output through TMCC and check the switch is on and report back.

Thanks as always for your interest.

MIKE 

Could the switch be wired backwards? i.e. On is Off

Did the vendor say specifically that the smoke worked, or just that the engine ran fine?

Dave

Hi Dave. Vendor said all worked.

I have just tried all the things above - no change.

MIKE

Just a quick update. I managed to borrow a brand new smoke unit from my pal Eric (masoner on here) It will not run either so problem somewhere else.

MIKE

I would check power at the smoke switch, both sides. If you have power then check power at the smoke unit, if you have power check the ground from the smoke unit to chassis. If you don't have power at the switch, check continuity between pin 5&6 on the radio board to smoke switch.

Bill 

Thanks Bill.

MIKE