Glenn Snyder Shelving

Currently I don't have any pictures of mine, but it looks real good and if you call them you can get the pins.

Sid

YouTube: Sid's Trains

I'm not worried about getting the pins, I'm wanting to know what they look like in use.  I'm a bit surprised that they don't have such pictures on the website!  Truthfully, their website is a bit "thin", very little information.  I realize this is a simple product, but at least some examples of all the pieces would be useful.  I've never seen the connecting pins in use, though I know a few people with the shelves.

gunrunnerjohn posted:

I'm not worried about getting the pins, I'm wanting to know what they look like in use.  I'm a bit surprised that they don't have such pictures on the website!  Truthfully, their website is a bit "thin", very little information.  I realize this is a simple product, but at least some examples of all the pieces would be useful.  I've never seen the connecting pins in use, though I know a few people with the shelves.

When I get home I will take some pictures and show them to you.

Thanks, just want to know what I'm buying before I pull the trigger on a $400 investment.

John:

At my home in PA, I had a long wall on which I attached five sections of Glenn Snyder with the pins which worked very well. Here are a few pictures:

John, one of the advantages of the GS shelving was the order could be pre-cut.  Worked well for me.  Shorter shelves, I didn't use any link pins. Note some of the corner shelf combinations.   Slide show.   Takes at least (3) #10 X 2" sheet metal screws, into 2" X 4" wall framing, per 6 ft section, more if possible.

Best wishes with your project. 

John, they are at York in the Orange hall. Take a look up close and also you will be able to save on shipping. 

Pete

John

Re; Snyder shelving.

This afternoon I will see if I can get a photo of a joint on one of my walls. But, first on America's typically uneven drywalls I used fender washers as needed at stud fastening positions to shim at spots and keep the shelves straight. Second, on joints I connected ends evenly by using very small mending plates recessed in one of the wide slots on top at the front edge, drilling matching holes and fastening with tiny machine screws. I was able to keep the wall side of the joints even when I installed the 1-1/2" fastening screws and then installed the little mending plates at the front edge. If one does not shim for uneven stud walls the shelves will tend to pull up when screwed at a recessed stud and cause a wavy track. "Ask me how I know".

 Most of my joints were 6' +2' on  8' walls and 6'+6' on 12' runs. 

Here is a Youtube video showing installation of the system. The 7:30 min. mark shows the pins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7zYWm3VH4A

Enjoy

Hey John.

Here are some quick shots I just took of mine.

Sorry for the poor quality.

However, the pins work great. I have 7 shelves, 18'-0" long. That is a total of 21 6' sections. These shelfs are now in their second location since I bought them years ago. 

The pins go together a little hard, I used a hammer and block of wood to tighten all the sections together. That being said, after I took them down from the old layout room, they re-assembled just fine as the pics show.

Any other questions please ask.

I personally plan to buy a bunch more in October at York and also get a few custom cut for one area that I need shorter ones.

Oh….and it is a (2) man or woman operation for installation!!!

Donald

3rail 2 posted:

Hey John.

Here are some quick shots I just took of mine.

Sorry for the poor quality.

However, the pins work great. I have 7 shelves, 18'-0" long. That is a total of 21 6' sections. These shelfs are now in their second location since I bought them years ago. 

The pins go together a little hard, I used a hammer and block of wood to tighten all the sections together. That being said, after I took them down from the old layout room, they re-assembled just fine as the pics show.

Any other questions please ask.

I personally plan to buy a bunch more in October at York and also get a few custom cut for one area that I need shorter ones.

Oh….and it is a (2) man or woman operation for installation!!!

Donald

I use the pins, but not how you do. I use it only on the center rail so that it won't affect items rolling across the shelves.

Great, thanks guys!  It looks like it's a winner, so I think I'll check on ordering.  I'll have to evaluate whether I want to wait until York or get some shelves up now, I guess that depends on exactly how much shipping is.  I'd really like to start unpacking some stuff, and I need lots of space to put around 100 locomotives and who knows how much rolling stock.  I'm going to start with the locomotives in a couple of spots that I've picked out...

John, one nice add on is the plastic end caps they have. His also blocks cars from rolling off the edge.

I saw those.  I'm still contemplating some sort of overall "case" around them so I can put some plexiglass to keep dust out, but I may just skip that.

Shipping via UPS. The 6 ft pieces with packaging are over 6ft, more expensive.

3rail 2 posted:

Here are some quick shots I just took of mine.

Any other questions please ask.

Donald

I think this system would look much better with something below the rail, similar to what Don shows in the top photo.

I only used one in the middle and it worked well

John

This very old fuzzy photo shows joints to add 2'sections to 6' sections with the small mending plate bolted to the bottom. I never got around to cutting the extensions off of the small machine screws. i used simple painted 1x4s from floor to ceiling to close off the ends of my shelves. The ell brackets you see in the corner are used to fasten the 1x4 to a stud.

Hi John: Closeup of the rolled pins / Sent from my iPhone

These pins can be removed when you are all done. (if you have a whole drilled at the matching ends to the wall)  They are just used for hanging procedures.

Glenn Snyder's daughter runs the company.  They only take a personal check or money order, no credit cards.  There main business is Commercial Printing.

Hope this helps: Gary

3rail 2 posted:

 

Oh….and it is a (2) man or woman operation for installation!!!

Donald

Donald;

I would respectfully disagree. While two people would make the job easier/quicker, I did mine by myself. At the time, the layout wasn’t built yet, so I could get right up to the wall which helped a lot. I love the shelving and like Rich suggested, the plastic end caps give a nice finished look.

Dewey Trogdon posted:

 

John

This very old fuzzy photo shows joints to add 2'sections to 6' sections with the small mending plate bolted to the bottom. I never got around to cutting the extensions off of the small machine screws. i used simple painted 1x4s from floor to ceiling to close off the ends of my shelves. The ell brackets you see in the corner are used to fasten the 1x4 to a stud.

You need just one more Ps-4. But you can't have my Weaver Tennessean.

As the others have said, the walls these days are terribly wavy and uneven. Like horizontal washboards! Our new house (new about 5 years ago anyway) is worse than the 50+ year old house we moved from! Lumber isn't as good as it used to be either. Shims of some type will most definitely be needed. That may be the worst part of installing the shelves! Might be a good reason to start using metal studs in new home construction?

Also, I hope the aluminum tariffs don't do too much damage to your shelf pricing. I like the Glenn Snyder end caps too, and I think he may have wheel chocks or something to keep cars from rolling around, very nice system he has there. I am contemplating some myself someday.

In my photo above the previous post by RTR 12, look carefully to the extreme left on the third row down--a beautiful backside no? 

Here is the front end below.

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John,

Attached find three pictures of Glen Snyder shelving.  First picture shows joint from about 1 foot out, second is from about 5 inches out, 3rd is from across the room.

Important hints:  Take the roller pin and increase the diameter of the opening a bit, use a dremel tool.  Hold one end in a vice grip and swap ends to complete.  Also - bevel the opening on the roller pin to a 30-45 degree angle - easier to get the roller pin on.  Attach the first shelf to wall studs using star head T20 or T25  wood screws  8-1-1/2" .  Phillips head screws are too soft and you destroy the head installing them.  Attach the first shelf to the wall, then install the roller pins using a small hammer.  Next - attach the second section of shelving using a small wooden block on the end of the shelf  you hit with a hammer.  That prevents damage to the shelf end.  I learned this after installing several sections.

Good quality shelving.

bruce

Please be aware at York they do not bring a huge amount and what they have is sold fast. Three hours after opening on Thursday I went back to add to my order and they were sold out at the April Show. SO GO THERE FIRST AND ORDER ALL YOU NEED OR WANT WITH EXTRA! I love it and have purchased  over 30 pieces between April 2017 and April 2018. Saved on shipping that way. Love the stuff.Be aware you need to spread the pins slightly to get them started onto the shelving.

John

If you are OK with the price you will like the shelves.  Order now and they will deliver at York.  Most of what they bring is pre sold.

John. I love mine and don’t regret buying it ever. I actually wish I had more but am running out of wall space. I have only used 2 pins on mine as don has above. Like Matt says one is also enough. The end caps really make them look great.

Everyone

If you desire a York pick up - CALL Caroline several days ahead and have her hold it for you.

bruce

Ive thought about buildind a frame to hold plexiglass so I can cover them and keep the dust off as well.

CurtisH posted:

Please be aware at York they do not bring a huge amount and what they have is sold fast. Three hours after opening on Thursday I went back to add to my order and they were sold out at the April Show. SO GO THERE FIRST AND ORDER ALL YOU NEED OR WANT WITH EXTRA! I love it and have purchased  over 30 pieces between April 2017 and April 2018. Saved on shipping that way. Love the stuff.Be aware you need to spread the pins slightly to get them started onto the shelving.

Being a vendor, I'm in the Orange Hall several hours before opening, so I think I can beat the rush.

CurtisH posted:

Be aware you need to spread the pins slightly to get them started onto the shelving.

I like my Glenn Snyder shelving too.  However, spreading those pins was not easy for me.  Maybe I was doing it wrong, but I could not spread those pins without a lot of force.

very timely thread for me. One of my observations is that everyone seems to have a white background behind their trains on display. I guess it makes it pop better than a colored or light blue background.

Paul

my walls are a lime green,  egg shell paint.

bruce

Place your order before York and they will bring the order to York. At April York one person bought a very large amount on Thursday morning wiping out all the Ogauge shelving for the rest of the meet.

bruce benzie posted:

John,

Attached find three pictures of Glen Snyder shelving.  First picture shows joint from about 1 foot out, second is from about 5 inches out, 3rd is from across the room.

Important hints:  Take the roller pin and increase the diameter of the opening a bit, use a dremel tool.  Hold one end in a vice grip and swap ends to complete.  Also - bevel the opening on the roller pin to a 30-45 degree angle - easier to get the roller pin on.  Attach the first shelf to wall studs using star head T20 or T25  wood screws  8-1-1/2" .  Phillips head screws are too soft and you destroy the head installing them.  Attach the first shelf to the wall, then install the roller pins using a small hammer.  Next - attach the second section of shelving using a small wooden block on the end of the shelf  you hit with a hammer.  That prevents damage to the shelf end.  I learned this after installing several sections.

Good quality shelving.

bruce

Bruce is right about opening the front of the Pins!!  They are made of very hard steel, and otherwise very hard to get on !!!  Another idea is to use Stainless Screws! They seem to be made of good metal  & blend in with the shelf !!! I had three walls of the shelving & loved it !!!

Well, I'm going to do the one wall that's 7 foot x 8 foot and see how it works out.  I'll also put some 3 foot sections over the stairway going down, there's a spot that is eye level as you go down, good place to put some big steamers.  My VL-BB needs a home, that looks like a good choice.

Good idea !  I have mine on top of my Rolltop Desk !

Our Rolltop Desk goes in the living room, and I think my wife has other plans for it's decoration.

romiller49 posted:

Place your order before York and they will bring the order to York. At April York one person bought a very large amount on Thursday morning wiping out all the Ogauge shelving for the rest of the meet.

I apologize as that was most likely me. I never thought about calling ahead. I purchased as soon as I got there in April 17 and 18. I will honestly TRY real hard to pre order next time. Sorry for the inconvenience I caused.