Reviews from those who received Flyer's Railsounds boxcars?

@Bob Bubeck posted:

My bad. I meant to write volume control. This is what my NH sound car is fitted with, too. Volume potentiometers and sliding switches that Lionel often use can become intermitant and physical activation of these components is all that is needed to restore operation.

Good grief. That post is from a half decade ago.

Bob

Bob, good info never dies.  I read a lot of the older threads through searches.   I bought a UP sound car used but it was DOA and I returned it today.  I still think this was a great idea but it had poor quality control apparently.

Art

@Sgauger posted:

... but it had poor quality control apparently.

I hear ya, but ...

You, and we, have no way of knowing if this is true.  How many good ones were made?  How many were bad in the end?

A few of everything will be bad, even with superior quality control.  A manufacturer cannot make every last one of them good without a substantial, and some say excessive, investment.

It can only really be done when production volumes begin to exceed 10,000 per year and detailed statistics can come into play.  Here, I'm sure we're talking about quite a bit less than that figure.

Maybe you're the unlucky ones?  Maybe the rest of them are all good?

Keep something in mind.  This is somewhat likely because, as with most of these kinds of situations, only a few complaints are registered here in the forum, not multitudes.

In the mean time keep sending the bad ones back.  It's the best, as an end consumer, that you can do.

Mike

@Mellow Hudson Mike posted:

I hear ya, but ...

You, and we, have no way of knowing if this is true.  How many good ones were made?  How many were bad in the end?

A few of everything will be bad, even with superior quality control.  A manufacturer cannot make every last one of them good without a substantial, and some say excessive, investment.

It can only really be done when production volumes begin to exceed 10,000 per year and detailed statistics can come into play.  Here, I'm sure we're talking about quite a bit less than that figure.

Maybe you're the unlucky ones?  Maybe the rest of them are all good?

Keep something in mind.  This is somewhat likely because, as with most of these kinds of situations, only a few complaints are registered here in the forum, not multitudes.

In the mean time keep sending the bad ones back.  It's the best, as an end consumer, that you can do.

Mike

Mike, very good points.  I really want Lionel Flyer to continue making innovative products along the lines of other scales . And to be successful at doing it.  I really wanted that sound boxcar to work.  And I'll watch to see if they get another run out in the future.  Art

You may have already read or referred to this, if so, please forgive any redundancy, but in case not --

https://ogrforum.com/...ave-ac-power-sources

Oh, and your L/AF locos will smoke better with chopped vs sinusoidal AC as well.  There's a pretty good YT out there on that by Lionel.  

@Sgaugian posted:

You may have already read or referred to this, if so, please forgive any redundancy, but in case not --

https://ogrforum.com/...ave-ac-power-sources

Oh, and your L/AF locos will smoke better with chopped vs sinusoidal AC as well.  There's a pretty good YT out there on that by Lionel.  

Sgaugian, actually I did read that post too.  Very helpful.  But it seemed to me that you were noting the issues with horn and bell.  In my  case I had no sound at all.  Not even static or a hum.  I was using a Gilbert Flyer 100 watt transformer.  Art

I don’t have any of these but are they likely to be problematic on 50Hz UK frequency?