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I added this Ives/Lionel train to my wind up collection this week and am delighted to have it.  The clockwork motor turns and winds but runs very slowly because it is badly in need of cleaning.  But I can't see any obvious way to remove the motor from the shell/chassis.  My Hafner and Marx wind-ups simply have a screw to remove and the motor comes right out.  Has anyone removed and serviced a motor from a 1506L and, if so, could you give me some direction?  Thanks in advance.

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  • 311749746_5531948033592186_4263192052751150058_n: 1506L Locomotive
  • 311055121_5557241707644334_6037804326247486816_n: Ives 1811 Pullman cars
  • 312577153_8277995155607410_6671860655027714166_n: 1506L with 1502T tender
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I think that your locomotive is made like the one in the photo below.  There are two small tabs (red circle) on the back of the motor, one on each sideplate.  They are bent slightly outward to keep the motor in place.  The two tabs need to be bent slightly inward toward the middle of the motor (direction of the green arrow) so that they will clear the opening for the motor.  If I remember correctly, this will allow the back of the motor to move away from the body and then the motor can move backward slightly, allowing the slots on the front of the motor to disengage from the body, then tip the front of the motor downward a bit, and slide it out of the body.

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Last edited by WindupGuy

Thank you!  This worked perfectly although in the end I didn't have to bend the tabs.  I've had the train for less than a week and hadn't noticed that the motor was not in the shell properly - when placed on a flat surface the locomotive tilted slightly to one side.  When I attempted to straighten one of the tabs, the motor snapped into place and was able to then be removed as you describe above: it slid to disengage the slots in the front, and I was then able to remove it with the bent slots coming out through the battery portal.

Upon removal I could see that the motor is filthy with dust, hairs, some corrosion and general gunk.  So, the cleaning process has begun.

Again, thank you for your help.



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It's cleaning nicely and, after some light oil, runs well.  It has a double chime with each rotation of the gear adjacent to the bell which is nice.  I'm pleased with the overall condition now that it's cleaning up - the brake holds well, no wobble to the wheels, the motor turns at a constant speed as the spring discharges, etc.

Will keep you posted.  Again, thank you for the help.

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The 1506L is back up and running.  Now to clean up the rolling stock that came with it, mostly dust removal.

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I also finished another project on my workbench -  A Hafner 1010 purchased from eBay that had been custom painted in a green and black combination.  I decided to take it down to the bare metal and return it to a more traditional color scheme.

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