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Hey folks, I must be missing something, or maybe Lionel has pulled one on us:  I have the Base 3, updated the firmware, downloaded the IOS app.  Whenever I try to load my Visionline Big Boy w/Bluetooth into the Base 3 using the IOS app, nothing changes with the locomotive.  I've tried using the program switch, not using it but there isn't any response.  I did check to see if the Base has the engine in the database, and it is there.  BTW, I did use 24 for the locomotive number.  I also made an attempt to load it via my legacy Cab 2, but I see no way to even do that other than using one of the generic program modules.  I think it's a shame that the bluetooth engines don't still come with a specific program module, as you cannot get all the legacy or visionline feature on the Lionchief app.

Any input or suggestions are much appreciated here!



Jim

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If you are programming it as a 2 digit TMCC address you will have to go into the Apps engine configuration and set the name, roadnumber, engine type (Steam), Control Type (Legacy), and Sound (Legacy).

You can use Cab2 but will also have to enter the same information.

If you assign a 4 digit address this information will be loaded for you.

@MartyE posted:

If you are programming it as a 2 digit TMCC address you will have to go into the Apps engine configuration and set the name, roadnumber, engine type (Steam), Control Type (Legacy), and Sound (Legacy).

You can use Cab2 but will also have to enter the same information.

If you assign a 4 digit address this information will be loaded for you.

I went into the Cab engine configuration and tried that several times yesterday, but it would never link to the engine.  I even took all the other locomotives off the track, tried to turn off my Base 3, but no luck.  The Big Boy does connect to the Lionchief app on Cab 3 and the older app. Why didn't Lionel either load these engines into the Base 3 or make a way to download them so that you will get the Visionline features you paid extra for? I'm not impressed one bit by the Base 3 or the app.  MTH's system works much better IMO.

@Jim Duke posted:

I went into the Cab engine configuration and tried that several times yesterday, but it would never link to the engine.  I even took all the other locomotives off the track, tried to turn off my Base 3, but no luck.  The Big Boy does connect to the Lionchief app on Cab 3 and the older app. Why didn't Lionel either load these engines into the Base 3 or make a way to download them so that you will get the Visionline features you paid extra for? I'm not impressed one bit by the Base 3 or the app.  MTH's system works much better IMO.

Jim

I don't know how to help you.  Tell me exactly what you are doing.  When you are running a BlueTooth equipped Legacy engine using Base3 it must be entered into the Cab3 side of the app.  The Bluetooth has nothing to do with it at this point.

Move the PGM / RUN swith to PGM.  Power the layout,  On the Cab3 APP push ENG, 24, SET.  The whistle blows and the engine comes alive.  Move the switch back to PGM.  Push Engine configuration (lower left button Engine w/ Gear).

From there enter the road name, road number, motive type, control type, and sound type.  Push BACK and select YES to update the record.

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I finally figured out what the issue was. . . . I had the Legacy Cab 2 powered and sending signal to the track, so the engine would never go into program mode.  I disconnected it, powered back in program mode, and it worked like it was supposed to.  Thanks for the input.  Time to get busy programming some more engines!

@Jim Duke posted:

I finally figured out what the issue was. . . . I had the Legacy Cab 2 powered and sending signal to the track, so the engine would never go into program mode.  I disconnected it, powered back in program mode, and it worked like it was supposed to.  Thanks for the input.  Time to get busy programming some more engines!

You mean Legacy Base?  The Cab2 being on shouldn't matter.

You may not be able to control them with one system (other than MTH's ability to issue TMCC commands),; however, you can run them on the same track simultaneously without issues.  I even ran 3 DCS  trains and a Legacy train on one 17 foot loop without any problem.  The key is to set your DCS train at a given smph and then using the greater speed granularity  of Legacy you can match the speeds of the two trains very easily, My 12 year old grandson was running the Legacy Triplex and the DCS SP Daylight on the same track with the MTH controller in one hand and my phone (CAB3) app in the other.

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