Info on Lionel 6-28044 Hudson?

There's one on eBay (Completed Listings); they were made to be "command upgradeable"

as you know, so you might be able to find the Lionel radio board/antenna kit - try Lionel's

parts department. It's a plug-and-play. If not, Modern Toy Train Parts has the ERR kits.

Straightforward upgrade.

The loco is handsome, NYC-ish, well made and modern. With a plastic tender body the

antenna ia a 60-second installation. If I were limited to sub-scale steamers (boy,

that would have saved me money!), I'd be all over one.

We also have the upgrade boards at discount prices.

Bill

The tender is diecast on this engine. I've done the TMCC and RS upgrades to these engines, was very easy.

Wow, a 21 inch loco that will run on 31 inch curves, that's pretty impressive.

These baby Hudsons first appeared in the 1999 Volume1 catalog along with the new

Baby Pacifics.  Both command control and traditional versions were offered at

$499/$399 MSRP.  A maintenance free can motor with momemtum flywheel is listed

as a common feature of both the traditional and command versions.

Lionel online parts does list a breakdown and diagram for engine 28007 NYC w/ command.  Many years ago I upgraded the Dept 56 Hudson to TMCC and RS, I dont recall what exact style of motor it had. I'm thinking it had a flywheel. I'll look to see if it shows anything in the owners manual.

The grey NYC traditional Baby Hudson was never made, was made as command only.

These engines shouldn't be confused with the smaller Hudson Jrs that came out a little later.  The Baby Hudsons are much larger and more detailed than the Hudson Jrs. Some of the Hudson Jrs had plastic tenders, where are the Baby Hudsons and Baby Pacific had diecaset tenders.

In the photo the engines on the top and bottom shelfs are Baby Hudsons, where as the

middle shelf is a Hudson Jr.

The Hudson from the set you mentioned (shown in the first picture below) is undoubtedly the larger, fully-featured Hudson, as it has, among other things, a diecast tender. It also came with top-line rolling stock, and the picture is that of the larger, more deluxe Hudson. The diecast tender is a sure giveaway in identifying it. The smaller, less-featured Hudson has a plastic tender (second picture shown below), and was much less expensive.

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trestrainfan - Image attached is from the owners manual of the command/RS upgradeable Hudsons/Pacifics.  Flywheel can motor is listed as feature.

Owners manual has the upgrade procedures but no real photos of what the engine looks like on the inside.  Hope this info helps.

breezinup and ed h, thank you both for posting the Lionel web site info and your thoughts on the Hudson models. I was looking around the Lionel web site today for the various Hudson locomotives and looking through the engine manuals when Lionel had a link. Although the catalog/website info didn't always mention flywheels, most of the manuals did have the information and the motors had flywheels (even the cheaper Hudson posted by breezinup). The 6-21956 set (6-28044 locomotive) didn't have an engine manual link, but the sister engine in the 6-21988 set (6-28065 locomotive) did have an engine manual link. The manual was very close to what ed h posted. Since the sister engine has a motor with a flywheel, and the only difference in the engines is signalsounds in one tender versus conventional railsounds in the other, I'm sure the 6-28044 locomotive has the motor with flywheel.

I copy interesting topics from the forum and save them as word documents on my computer. I was just looking at the photo of the baby Hudson/Hudson jr. comparison yesterday (before you posted it today!). It was in a topic I had copied about Hudson jr. locomotives and I wanted to refresh my memory about the different traditional size Hudsons by Lionel. It's a good picture to see the size difference between the baby and jr. locomotives.

Thanks again to both of you for your help.

These are the 8000 Series Hudsons.  These are great engines and similiar in size to the PW 2046/56.  I have the NYC Grey, and the Southern and LL in Pacifics.  Fantastic sounds.  They do use the old style piston smoke unit.  The NYC Hudson does a lot of pulling on my layout.  G

Thanks for the info. I don't operate with smoke, so I'm not concerned about the feature. Glad to hear they are good runners.