I would like to add traction tires, and weight, to a #634 Santa Fe Switcher and McKeen Motor Car I have, but I don't want to pull the truck apart to do add some. Is there a paint brush glue that works? Maybe Rubber in a bottle?
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I would like to add traction tires, and weight, to a #634 Santa Fe Switcher and McKeen Motor Car I have, but I don't want to pull the truck apart to do add some. Is there a paint brush glue that works? Maybe Rubber in a bottle?
Do a search for Bull Frog Snot. I believe they are also an advertiser in OGR magazine.
The 634 has a traction tire.
The weight is a great idea, as I have weighted my 634. Lionel weighted later versions of the 634 with a weight affixed with a screw through an exhaust stack. I use sticky weights(for static balancing mag wheels) from Harbor Freight:
Remember, the 634 has just one driving axle, so don't push it too hard.
Mine came with out a traction tire because it probably cracked and fell of, I see the spot for the tire, but I don't want to have to pull it apart. I will try the Bull Frog Snot, I think that will work. Thanks.
Truthfully, I'd put the traction tire back on. I tried Bullfrog Snot, I was unimpressed.
It's not hard to install a traction tire on 99% of the locomotives, occasionally one comes along to make it a PITA.
More weight is always a good idea, I use the same kind of weights that Rob mentioned, I found a large box of them on-line pretty cheap and I'm still working my way through them.
I use rubber cement to glue them back on. Keeps the tires in place and is easily scraped off when required.
You do not have to disassemble the truck to get the tire on. There is nothing obstructing the outer wheel - the truck side frames are just close to the wheels. You can slip the tire through this gap easily.
Use a standard 202-108 tire and slip it between the side frame and around the wheel, partially, and work the wheel around, holding the tire in the groove with a fine dentist pick-like tool. I have had so few tire failures, I have only done this a few times, but it is easy once you get the knack.
You do not have to disassemble the truck to get the tire on. There is nothing obstructing the outer wheel - the truck side frames are just close to the wheels. You can slip the tire through this gap easily.
Use a standard 202-108 tire and slip it between the side frame and around the wheel, partially, and work the wheel around, holding the tire in the groove with a fine dentist pick-like tool. I have had so few tire failures, I have only done this a few times, but it is easy once you get the knack.
I would like to add traction tires, and weight, to a #634 Santa Fe Switcher and McKeen Motor Car I have, but I don't want to pull the truck apart to do add some. Is there a paint brush glue that works? Maybe Rubber in a bottle?
Hi, while I have not used it, I have seen a product callet Bullfrog Snot" that is a type of paint on traction tire. I am sure if you Google it you will be able to find out if it would work for your application
Rick
I would like to add traction tires, and weight, to a #634 Santa Fe Switcher and McKeen Motor Car I have, but I don't want to pull the truck apart to do add some. Is there a paint brush glue that works? Maybe Rubber in a bottle?
Do a search for Bull Frog Snot. I believe they are also an advertiser in OGR magazine.
You do not have to disassemble the truck to get the tire on. There is nothing obstructing the outer wheel - the truck side frames are just close to the wheels. You can slip the tire through this gap easily.
Use a standard 202-108 tire and slip it between the side frame and around the wheel, partially, and work the wheel around, holding the tire in the groove with a fine dentist pick-like tool. I have had so few tire failures, I have only done this a few times, but it is easy once you get the knack.
One could use some thinset CA adhesive spread with a tooth pick. That works fine.
actually, Jim Barrett mentioned this process in one of his recent back shop articles.
One could use some thinset CA adhesive spread with a tooth pick. That works fine.
actually, Jim Barrett mentioned this process in one of his recent back shop articles.
I use rubber cement to glue them back on. Keeps the tires in place and is easily scraped off when required.
I do the same - once in a while I find a tire that is slipping on the wheel. Walther's Goo is good for this too(just a tiny amount of whatever you use). While CA/Super Glue seems somewhat permanent, it has excellent tensile strength, but poor shear strength, allowing you to remove or replace the tires quite easily by breaking/chipping off the old tire & glue quite easily.
The picture appears to be from Jeff Kane aka The Train Tender.
The picture appears to be from Jeff Kane aka The Train Tender.
That IS the place to go for parts!
Thanks for the help, now my question is, what about the postwar Alcos, I have a 1055 and a 225 that both don't have tires, but my second 1055 does. Does that traction tire also work for those as well?
The 1055 did not originally have traction tires, and the 225 is supposed to have 2 axle MagneTraction.
I have actually stretched tires(and cemented as above) over non-grooved wheels for traction enhancement, but it was with heavier Williams diesels and it works quite well. If you use non-derailing switches, you would probably not want to put tires on the front/leading wheels.
Otherwise, the part number is the same for all Lionel postwar, most MPC/LTI, and Lionel Corp., & K-Line traditional diesels.
O.k., well that's odd cause one of my 1055 has two tires. Well if the part will work, I will order a few a get them working better then new! Thanks for you're help.