L/Master TMCC T1 performance help

I'm always suspect of signal issues when erratic operation is encountered.  Especially now that you have had the engine apart, pinching the antenna lead somewhere during reassembly could have happened.  I've done it a few times myself and have also had 2 factory assembled units with pinched leads.

 

Bruce

Try the "set", go forward, slowly reduce speed until the engine just stops, press "set" again. Does that help?

Hi Chuck - thats anew one to me - I will try it. Bruce I have already double checked for pinches/bare wires to the handrails + continuity is fine but thanks.

 

CHEERS MIKE

I reset the stall feature. This improved things a bit but the slightest movement of the TMCC red wheel results in a very rapid take off. After that it is controllable.

 

Anyone any other ideas or is this as good as it gets?

 

Thanks
MIKE

 

 

Mike, Has the T1 got cruise control? If so check the switch to see if it is on or off.

Regards
Nick

I looked on line at Lionmaster T1 5514 (?) to see how they start up, and the one I saw did start abruptly, but did not take off fast. I wonder about installing a Cruise Commander M...it made my K Line hudsons smooth but they did not have cruise in them to begin with. I think there might be some benefit in being able to choose 32 or 100 speed steps. With the C11 to C13 R2LC, the momentum buttons are repurposed to change the speed steps from 32 to 100. With the C08, the speed steps are changed with a string of commands.

I can't say this would tame the T1, but it works for my K Line Hudsons. I did try the K Line Cruise add on but did not find it as good as the CC M.

Chuck  - thanks for the further thoughts.

 

Nick - no cruise switch unfortunately.

 

CHEERS MIKE

Mike, Just had a thought.. When you replaced the radio board did you reprogram the engine with the feature code?
Not sure this is the latest list but check the following.
http://www.thetraindoctor.com/reset.shtml

Nick

Hi Nick - yes reset to 74. I have the manual in any case for the engine. I am starting to wonder if there isnt something up with the new radio board - If I have time I will try a swop of another known good board and see what happens.

 

CHEERS MIKE

Another look in the cold light of day reveals a damaged magnetic ring that disintegrated when I touched it. Hopefully this is the cause! (Don't know why I didnt check/notice that - DOH !!)

 

Thank goodness for Lionel's wonderful parts service - even though I am in the Uk should be here by early next week!

I am curious. Do you know which part # they suggested\are supplying?

 

A thread from last month was an interesting discussion. Boxcar Bill, a Lionel repair person had some interesting comments on the options to repair this problem. Ultimately, his suggestion was to replace the control board with a new ERR version.

 

I see that the motor assembly is listed as unavailable and the alt# is available. Hence, the source of my curiosity.

 

Edit: I found the thread. Read his reply of 19 Aug.

TMCC engine takes off at full speed

Hi Carl,

 

Thanks for that link - wish I had seen it/found it earlier LOL!

 

The magnet rings are available and very cheap - even after posting to the UK (Lionel charge me a flat $9 - a bargain!)

 

My thinking was that I may be able to remove the flywheel - if not I am sure Rob - the UK based repair guy I use every now and then will know what to do and by ordering the parts I could speed the process up. I guess only time tell. If this fails then I will go the other route which may be the best option anyway!

 

CHEERS MIKE. 

That's what I used, the ERR Cruise M. The engines weren't broken, but they run up and down hills now and smoothly.

Mike, So it must have cruise as it has the magnetic ring. It might be cheaper in the long run to buy a complete motor with the encoder ring fitted. As they are supposed to be tricky to fit.

Nick

Nick - you could be right but the website shows that the complete unit is unavailable for everything except the Lionmaster Hudson. I have that engine so may check if the motors /gears are the same in the small photos on the site they look pretty similar even though the part code is different.

 

Otherwise  - ERR here I come!

 

On another matter - did you get your Lionmaster Challenger running - unless I dreamt it I recall you bought a non runner? I have 2 of them, both Legacy,great locomotives.

 

CHEERS MIKE 

Hi Mike, Yes the Challenger is now fully operational! I had it running at the club show at Ilkley.

Nick