Lionel 6-11465 SP Daylight Cab Forward Photos

Fabulous locomotive, Mike!  Thx for the pics and video.  Very impressed with the sound fidelity, presence and overall dynamic range in Lionel locomotives.  Definitely sets the bar for O-Gauge trains nowadays.  

 

David

For what it's worth, that is NOT a Southern Pacific "freight whistle" sound.

Thanks for posting that video Mike!

 

Looks like you guys did address the compressor sound issue from the first run, great job on that.  And the fidelity is certainly top notch.

 

Now for the downside:

 

Quilling feature aside, the whistle sound is still off for the cab forward unfortunately.  In fact, the whistle is even more off the mark in tone and pitch than the original 2005 release, which frankly perplexes me.

 

Looks like the radio "Dispatch" sounds are still here to stay unfortunately in Lionel's steam locomotives.  I suppose it's fortunate that's user-selectable for those that would rather do without that feature, but the question is can you do the shutdown sequence in Legacy without having the dispatch dialogue or is still carried over from the TMCC days?  With my TMCC version of the cab forward, I resort to putting a battery in the tender and killing track power so it does the shutdown sequence without the dispatch chatter; was hoping with Legacy you wouldn't have to do that anymore.

 

 

 

All I read was his thoughts about the "quibble whistle". I'm referring to the SOUND of the whistle, and THAT is NOT Southern Pacific.

 

Agreed.

 

Maybe Mike will chime in and clarify if the sound set as heard in this model is specific to the "Daylight" paint scheme model and if a separate, more prototypical sound set will be used on the regular models?

Mike,

Thank you for sharing. Fantastic sound. I must say, just when you thought the sound could not get any better, the latest releases have stepped it up a notch.

I have purchased the New UP H7 and the sound is wow, Wow, WOW!

 

Thanks for posting the video, Mike. This engine is a home run as far as I am concerned.

 

Products like this sure make our hobby quite interesting. Good job, Lionel!!!!

Wow!  Thanks, Mike!!!!!!

 

I ordered one in Daylight from Charlie Nassau and Chris at York.  Looks like it was the right decision ... though I "got grief" from a couple of guys about the "prototypicality"  .

 

Just to show them, I'm going to run a nice consists of Daylight passenger cars behind this loc. when it comes home to my layout.  

 

Add one more person to that list. 

What list?????  The buy list?  Good to hear you're ordering.    LOL!   

Fantasy or no; I like it!

 

Rod

Hey All,

So, the comments regarding the whistle being incorrect has caught the attention of Rudy Trubitt, Lionel's very own "Railsounds Maestro" (or Sound Engineer as he humbly refers to himself!).

 

Rudy shot me an email I would like to share with you, the excerpt from his email:

 

That video is obviously spot on, since it was recorded from the live movie sound. However, THAT video whistle doesn't seem to sound like the video of the new cab forward model, posted above. In my opinion, the real one is "higher pitched" when compared to the model.

Hi Guys,

 

Try this:

 

http://www.qsisolutions.com/sounds/whistles.html

 

Scroll down 11.  That is the Cab Forward whistle

 

Steve

Mike

The engine looks great (the all black will look better in my opinion) but the fantasy scheme is surprisingly more appealing than I thought it would be.

 

The compressor sounds are way cool....great job.  Comparing the whistles in both the links you posted, well they sound pretty darn close to me.  The different pitches in the quilable toy are going to be so much fun to play with.  Clearly you can not please them all, but something tells me you already know that (and you have no desire to do so anyway).  Clearly you will please the vast majority with this model and it will undoubtedly sell out.  Keep up the great work!

I've listened carefully to all of the sounds mentioned above now, and the Lionel whistle sounds pretty good to me.

 

Don't forget that, like any sound, whistles will sound different according to the location. A whistle in the open air can sound quite different to that in an enclosed space. You also have to allow for doppler effects, and even the fidelity of the recording itself.

 

I would say that Lionel have done a wonderful job with this locomotive, and I would dearly love to have one in my collection. 

Thank you Mike for the pictures and the video.  I thought I would never buy a fantasy paint scheme but I'm buying this one.

 

Will you have an "open house" at your new location?

This is an impressive model.

 

Mike, I know that overall length is 32.5" but can you tell us the wheelbase length - some people don't have 35" turntables.

 

What a magnificent piece of toy engineering. Job well done and thank you very much,

Mike and crew for sharing the video.

 

 

First, I want to thank Mike R for posting the photos and video and for engaging with the community. This is a great thing to do and it really enhances Mike's and Lionel's standing. 

 

Second, I'm going to sail against the wind on the Daylight painted Cab Forward. I just don't care for it. I am a big Cab Forward fan; I have three of them (an MTH with PS/2 and two 3rd Rail brass ones). The Daylight paint job just looks funny to me on a Cab Forward. I think the Cab Forward would look better if it were done like SP 3000, an unstreamlined 4-4-2 that was painted in Daylight colors for the San Joaquin Daylight. That engine was left mostly black, with the tender in Daylight colors. Lionel made a model of it around 2000.

 

The Daylight paint scheme might look good on an AC-9, which has a skyline casing. The AC-9 would look like a giant Daylight GS engine. 

 

However, it looks like I'm in the minority here, which is a good thing for Lionel. Looks like the Daylight Cab Forward will be a hit, if the responses in this thread are any indication. 

Thanks for the pics and videos, Mike. I am not a rivet counter and normally don't go for the fantasy paint schemes (I passed on the grey hound UP 9000). but I just love how this scheme was done. The Daylight paint was done in the right amount and design. The daylight colors AND the addition of the whistle steam pushed me over and I am glad I ordered it.  Can't wait to add her to my growing fleet.

Just watched the video, and it looks and sounds great.

The whistle sounds really good to me, but I'm no purist!

 

One thing I noticed right near the end, it looks like the whistle smoke activates when the air horn sounds. Did I see that rignt?

Not a big deal, just a curiosity more than anything.

 

Another winner for Lionel. Thanks for posting Mike.

 

Rod

This has been really interesting following all of the posts regarding the introduction of the Daylight Edition of the Cab Forward by Lionel. What was particularly interesting was the number of orders received for the Daylight Edition far outnumber the orders for the prototypical version. The thread I started this week about color influencing purchase decisions sure makes a valid point as evidenced by the apparent success of this engine in the marketplace.

 

If Mike Reagan is not officially part of the Lionel sales effort, he should be. By starting this thread with the wonderful photos and video of this superb engine, anyone who was on the fence, probably isn't anymore. I was part of this group until I placed my order today. 

 

Thanks Mike for helping me to make up my mind.  

It looks like I am finally going to want and buy a Cab Forward.  For whatever subjective reason, I never really cared for the design.   Until now.  I love the Daylight paint job.

 

Count me in

That color scheme is just beautiful on anything. Now If they would make some daylight passenger cars you would satisfy nearly a decade long drought of that color scheme. Was 2005 the last time they were cataloged?

I've just received a beautiful set of Shasta Daylight 18" coaches from Nassau Hobby. They may still have some left if you are quick. (Catalogued in 2010) 

The Shasta cars are nice but they do not match the Daylight color scheme. I am not a rivet counter but that loco deserves a matching set. Thanks for the heads up thoughand I appreciate the thought

Am I the only one that sees the irony here? You have a fantasy engine and are concerned the cars won't match the fantasy paint scheme? Will the engine be painted with the same paint used on the Northerns or the Alcos? I'd suggest waiting for the engine before trying to find matching cars.

 

Pete

Thank's for all the info and going about posting it all for us to see Mike, Fantasy or not it's a Beautiful looking and sounding Loco.

Mike, keep up the great job you are doing for Lionel. It looks like a winner to me. No sooner then I saw it at Lionel's event I knew I was going to order one each of the black & daylight. My AC-12 from 2005 is my favorite steam locomotive, at least for now. I'm one who likes to have some color in my trains so the new daylight AC-12 will be a welcome addition to my roster.

FYI, I will not be ordering the engine but I do have the GS-2 issued earlier. 

I don't see the irony. Fantasy paint scheme or not, blue, yellow, whatever, him or I look for paint consistency.  Simply he's just concerned whether the Daylight colors will be the same shade to match other Lionel daylight products.  I think the answer is yes if they are coming out of the same factory. Makes sense that they would use the same paint across their the board. If it was from another manufacturer/brand (i.e. MTH or 3rd Rail) then probably different shades of Daylight colors. So, no there is no irony at all

No offense Mike. I have the earlier cars and they some of the nicest 18" cars out there. That said, MTH is releasing cars this month in both the early and late lettering schemes. They might be worth checking out. I have ordered a pair to make a longer train.

 

 

I don't know if the two releases of Lionel cars came from the same factory but in any event they don't match each other. If the cars were released at the same time as the engine you might expect a match but if they aren't made for a couple of more years then its a matter of luck.

 

 

Pete

 

 

I have to say this engine is cool. I am going to own one. If I was a betting man, I would say these are going to be in short supply.

Pat

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Southern Pacific LEGACY Scale AC-12 Cab Forward 4-8-8-2 Steam CAB # 4275 http://www.patstrains.com/View...Details=View+Details

Stock Number: 6-11465 Gauge: O/O-27 Gauge Manufacturer: Lionel Product Type: Locomotives Availability: PRE-ORDER

Hey all,

Thanks for looking at the posts. Glad we could get some images and video uploaded before the weekend for everyone to see the loco, we (Lionel) are all very proud of how the entire team has pulled together to make this project a success. We plan to try to keep this type of thing ongoing; showing off photos and video (when applicable) of our new products. 

 

It is important to us that everyone within the consumer and dealer community understands that our products are researched, designed, developed (electronics & sounds) and subsequently manufactured by a very dedicated team of individuals inside Lionel who rarely get much / any external credit for their hard work towards the success of Lionel products (which ultimately translates into the enjoyment of our products by our customers).

 

Great job everyone!! (within Lionel) for a job well done! 

 

We would especially like to extend a BIG THANK YOU to our customers who support Lionel products. Without you none of us would have the privilege of working in our "dream job" roles within Lionel.

 

 

 

 

Beautiful toy train. I'm waiting for the LionChief version, which will hopefully eventually

follow.

Mike,

 

THANKS SO MUCH for the great Video. Fantastic sound from the Engine. How many Fat Boy Speakers?  Another great job at Lionel. So glad I ordered one!

 

Fred (FREDSTRAINS)      

I like the Daylight scheme, too.  If it weren't for all of the other engines in this catalog, I would seriously consider getting one of these!

 

Andy