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I have a few questions regarding tradition O Gauge track.  I had purchased a group of used track some years back and have progressively cleaned it through the Holidays.  My first question is did Lionel always paint the ties, or did they also 'chemically' darken them?  And, was there any point where they simply tin plated them like the rail?  I have included pictures regarding the couple pieces that have what appear to be tin plated ties.  The next question, did Lionel originally make the straight sections longer?  One piece I have is 1/2" longer than the rest and also has pins that are more 'nail like'.  These were a 'bear' to try to remove.  The one I initially removed had flattened area that kind of reminded me of a key.  And, the track was 'staked' differently as well. (I wish I had taken a picture before reinstalling it. The thing was so difficult to remove, it wasn't worth trying on the rest just to re-pin them.)

The last few pictures are of two pieces that have no identification on them.  The ties appear to be tin plated and stepped (elevated center and outer rails).  Any clues as to who may have made this?  And, is it easy to find more?

 

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  • Lionel track 3
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  • Lionel track 5
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  • Lionel track 8
  • Unknown track 1
  • Unknown track 2
  • Unknown track 3
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Henry, I also have some of that track with the nail like pins. At first I thought some one substituted nails for pins, until I saw the flattened ends.Yes , they were very hard to remove. I'd like to know the manufacturer of this track as well,and believe it to be prewar. But I don't think it's Marx as it differs from Marx track that I have. I could be wrong though, and am always willing to learn.

Mike

RadioRon,  doing research.  I like learning about things I find. And, appreciate the input from forum members. There is a lot of knowledge here!

CaptainCog and PhillyReading, I will try to research Dorfan on the 'elevated' track. 

Again, the other track that has the nail like pins is marked Lionel N.Y. on the ties.  So I am guessing (only guessing) pre-war.

The track with the "nail style" pins may be American Flyer prewar.  A search on eBay for AF track does show those type of pins, listed as 1930's prewar.  The comment of Ives as a competitor to Lionel is a known fact, but only prior to the 1930's.  Ives did not exist in the 1930's.  Dorfan wouldn't be a candidate for the stepped ties.  They were basically a late comer, estab. 1924, out of business in 1936.  All the track you show is "0", not 027, because of the curled ties, and height should be 11/16".

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