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The easy way to do the oil tender would be to design it with switchable coal and oil inserts. A lot of real oil tenders were converted from coal in exactly this fashion. Weaver did it once or twice with brass engines, but they haven't done so lately. I lobbied Lionel (unsuccessfully) to make an oil option for the Milwaukee Road Northerns. 
 
Originally Posted by glockr:
Originally Posted by Southwest Hiawatha:

There still is a crying need for a good, scale size, 4-6-0 from around the turn of the century. The few engines available in this wheel arrangement are either not up to par for detail and fidelity to prototype (Rail King, Williams) or much too big and modern looking to run in front of old-fashioned cars (Lionel). And make it available in black, undecorated. 

 

I also like the TankTrainer posted by falconservice. I'm more a steam era guy, but that would be tempting. 

Besides black and undecorated, offer it with an OIL TENDER option. Not everyone lives in coal country...

 

Cheers,

Ken

I have several of the brass Williams repro 700 cars.  They cannot hold a candle to the originals.

 

i too have a "thing" for the Baldwin three- cylinder 60000.  Mine is indeed purple, with custom decals.  I have posted a photo, but every time I have done so, the thread stops cold.  I won't do that here.

Originally Posted by bob2:

I have several of the brass Williams repro 700 cars.  They cannot hold a candle to the originals.

 

i too have a "thing" for the Baldwin three- cylinder 60000.  Mine is indeed purple, with custom decals.  I have posted a photo, but every time I have done so, the thread stops cold.  I won't do that here.

It would be a good one for sure:

 

blw60

 

Bob

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So Long as the "I wish they made it" threads keep popping up....I'll keep wishing....

 

Union Pacific 4-6-2 (Non-Generic/USRA repaint please) Two tone Grey with white/silver striping.  And a matching heavyweight set (should be easy with Blue Comet/Alton/Southern tooling/molds available)

 

(Added bonus: If he prefers TT Grey w/yello Lee would only have to re-paint the striping )

 

 

Union Pacific 3114

Union Pacific heavyweight observation

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Bachmann does that with some of their HO Scale steam locos. I have a 4-4-0 that came with tender inserts for wood, coal, and oil. Also a couple different pilot choices.
 
Cheers,
Ken
 
Originally Posted by Southwest Hiawatha:
The easy way to do the oil tender would be to design it with switchable coal and oil inserts. A lot of real oil tenders were converted from coal in exactly this fashion. Weaver did it once or twice with brass engines, but they haven't done so lately. I lobbied Lionel (unsuccessfully) to make an oil option for the Milwaukee Road Northerns.
Originally Posted by Tedttrain:

I really like the Lionel Shay and I would like to see them make a Climax or a Heisler steam engine. You can get a lot of action in a lumber railroad

Lionel made a Heisler several years ago, so one might think it's about time to reissue it with Legacy. It was a very nice model - I considered buying one several times but I don't have room for a logging loop on my layout so never could quite justify the purchase. 

 

MTH has made the Climax.

There could be THREE models of Reading & Northern 425, as follows:

 

(1) High headlight, as laz57 posted

 

(2) High headlight with LOUISIANA EASTERN script lettering. The R&N's "Four-and-a-Quarter" is the largest survivor of Paulsen Spence's roster. There are only two others: 4-4-0 #98 on the Wilmington & Western and a modern 4-4-0 with Walschaert valve gear on the Stone Mountain Scenis Railroad in Georgia. The rest were scrapped after Mr. Spence died.

 

(3) Reading-style headlight, slightly above center. It is remarkable how different she looks.  Local railfans kidded Reading Steam Guru by saying the "4" on her number plate was too big. A catalog drawing/photo could show her leaning on that side. Throw in an auxiliary water car ("jug") for good measure. There are two. Here she is with a Reading Camelback tender that fits on the Jersey Central turntable at Jim Thorpe with #425. The first "jug," a larger PRR tender, had to be turned separately.

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PRR "jug"

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And then there is Lehigh Gorge Scenic Railway No. 426. She has an amazing custom paint job, full of local details. In the middle of her long hood is a waterfall, a trackside cataract near Old Penn Haven, where the Lehigh Valley and the Jersey Central interchanged.

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I'll conclude with a photo of my Lionel Reading T-1 custom painted and detailed as #2124 by Reading Steam Guru.

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Originally Posted by Southwest Hiawatha:

       
The easy way to do the oil tender would be to design it with switchable coal and oil inserts. A lot of real oil tenders were converted from coal in exactly this fashion. Weaver did it once or twice with brass engines, but they haven't done so lately. I lobbied Lionel (unsuccessfully) to make an oil option for the Milwaukee Road Northerns. 


If the "realistic coal load" is a separate casting, screwed on from beneath, it shouldn't be too difficult to manufacture an insert to convert it to oil.  If I had the facilities to make castings I'd look into manufacturing some, but as it stands it'd be a one-off custom job.

A decent-looking corrugated-side RPO.

 

I wish Lionel would make a decent-looking corrugated-side streamlined RPO. Many of us have space problems and run shorter cars. I would think that cars that were prototypically short--like certain Railway Post Office cars--would be a natural, even if only the Santa Fe and the Rock Island went for them. There's be little need for shortening or for the "toy train" effect--these were not long cars like most sleepers and coaches. You could have short cars that would not only appeal to the toy train end of the 3-rail market but also to those of us who'd like to run the more realistic-looking stuff.

I'd prefer if Lionel would make some of the neater steam locomotive models MTH has done, but they seem to be stuck on the same models again and again in the same roadnames, maybe its a cookbook marketing strategy, I don't know. The Erie Triplex, PRR 2-10-0 Decapod & H10 2-8-0, Erie Angus, are among the engines I'd be tempted to buy over other copmpany versions.

My vote goes to a model that would put those four BB smoke units to good use..   A VL Triplex with swinging bell, depleting coal, blow down, whistle and tender smoke and throw in dynamo smoke if it had a dynamo back then.

All 24 drivers turning with great sound... WoW... It would open checkbooks real fast.

Joe 

A box car that I have and always liked was Lionel's Post War # X1004, P.RR. Curtiss Baby Ruth Candy 40' steel, double door box car:

http://www.postwarlionel.com/c...in/postwar?ITEM=1004

If Lionel could make it in and with:

1-Full 1:48 Scale Dimension, Proportion and Size;

2-Same Orange Color Paint Scheme on the body;

3-SAME Blue markings, as on the O-27 car, even if the markings are NOT prototypical;

4-40 foot length, steel car of its' time, WHICH WAS NOT A LIONEL FAMOUS PS-1 STYLE;

5-Operable Youngstown Double Doors, With, or without, Box Loads;

6-Has ALL of the safety equipment, such as, Ladders, Grab Irons-Upper and the TWO at        

     the Lower End Sills;

7-All Tack Boards;

8-Running Board,

9-Roof Corner Landings with Grab Irons.

10-Poling-Pockts (Which, Lionel Famously eliminates from their Famous PS-1 Style of box cars, unless I am wrong, of which earlier and depending on the RR's., some PS-1 boxes did have 'Poling-Pockets!!!!'

11-Whatever else a box car of the time period, of the late '30's, to the early '50's., had.

I know, that this is MY 'FANTASY CAR' and if Lionel could and would make it, it would probably cost the price of a plain dummy 'B' diesel unit, maybe $100.00, or #200.00!!!
Ralph 

 

 

 

 

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