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Hi everyone,

I don't know if this subject has ever come up on the Forum, so here goes.

 Atlas, Lionel, MTH, Weaver and Williams all have clubs with Lionel the only one that doesn't offer a car. I have at one time or another belonged to all of them. I currently belong to Lionel and Weaver. Atlas offers their Trainman line freight car (it used to be a Master line) for $69.95 membership ($30.00 without car), Lionel is $20.00, MTH has a Railking car for $50 and a Premier for $55, Weaver has a 'Ultra' line freight car for $69.95 along with another gift, (this year was a 25 piece tool kit) and Williams has a choice of freight cars $74.95 or less for a $45 membership fee. With all of them you get their catalogs sent to you. During the course of the year I usually get the catalogs sent to me by the retailers I buy from so I end up with multiple copies of some manufacturers.  Desirability of the "Free" car with membership will determine if I renew each year. I still may join MTH this year. Their Pillsbury PS-2CD looks good.

How many of you belong to a club, which ones and what was your determining factor(s) for joining or not joining?   

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I've joined various mfg's clubs and received their current cars, but in all cases I have let my membership lapse.  My problem was that each club, in trying to please more people, would offer different cars from  different eras, each year.  Since my layout is strictly 1950, no newer car was of interest to me.  So in each case, when the later era car was announced, I just didn't renew for that year.  If, during the following years, a new car of interest to me appeared, I would simply renew my membership.  Unless, of course, I didn't figure that I "needed" that particular car for my roster.

 

Paul Fischer

I belonged to K-Line's collector club about six years ago, also belonged to Williams club and got their club car each year(wasn't a member every year as I didn't like the car offered) I was a member.

With WBB going to $45.00 I have to carefully think about becoming a club member again. My train budget has shrunk very much in the past year, so I have to carefully weigh each purchase anymore.

 

Lee Fritz

I've joined the Weaver, Atlas, K-Line, and MTH clubs at various times, always because I wanted the specific club car (or engine, in the case of K-Line) for that year. I also once joined LCCA for the same reason. I currently don't hold any of those memberships, because none of the current offerings appeal to me (some are downright repulsive). As Fisch330 pointed out, the offerings vary in era and type of car. I'm almost entirely steam/transition era and seldom buy anything modern.

  

What gets me to spring for a membership? Usually wooden reefers, especially beer cars. Anything interesting or unusual from the steam era. Anything Milwaukee Road. Occasionally other Midwestern or Western roads. 

 

What repels me? Anything that is an ad for the manufacturer, rather than something that looks like it belongs on a railroad. (You listening, MTH?) Flag color schemes. Yet another NYC, PRR, or UP item. 

 

Whenever MTH finally comes out with PS/3 kits, I will likely rejoin their club to get the discount on the kits, and resell the car if I don't like it.

 

The only club cars I get consistently every year are the ore cars from the Gadsden Pacific Toy Train Museum (where I am a member) and the Milwaukee Lionel Railroad Club (because I am a Milwaukee Road fan). TCA hasn't had anything in years that I thought was worth the money (in fact, I wouldn't waste storage space on most of their offerings if they were free), and I get LCCA cars through a friend if they have something I want. 

Last edited by Southwest Hiawatha

All these years without a membership in any of the, "clubs". I do not feel as if I have missed anything. I've not lived a sheltered life by any means. I came to learn about the OGR Forum by subscribing to the magazine.

 

I agree with others about the pitiful fantasy cars made by each maker. Even the tinplate cars offered by Lionel and MTH leave much to be desired.

I have been a member of the Lionel Club since it began in 1976. I like getting the catalogs and the discounts on the Lionel store. I have been a member of the Atlas club since it began. I like the membership cars. I was also a K-Line club member from the beginning to the end. I joined the MTH club when it was formed but I was not that interested the annual cars and I had to cut back on membership money I spent when I retired. I also belong to LCCA and LOTS (20+ years each). I was a TCA member for a while but with big dues increase and a limited budget, I had to drop out. 

I have been a MTH club member several years, and yes I bought PS2 upgrades with it. I have several of the Railking cars and Yes, the All have the Colors and the logo on them.

I don't have a problem with that.

I really wish I could find the Steam engine from the Club, It was done before I got into the hobby. I agree, some of the cars are too modern for my layout, I'll end up selling them I expect.

Im a member of the Old cheapskates toy train society. Which coincidentally is the same membership for Bargain hunters anonymous and The Repair old cheap MARX club. Both were founded by me in my backyard, after I learned that I there was not a single money tree or goldmine in the backyard. I have submitted my application to the train show-aholics coalition. Still trying to avoid the E-bay auction sniper fraternity. 

 

I am a member of the LCCA and many other train clubs.  I found the LCCA to be very friendly and family oriented.   Personally, I became involved with the LCCA because I found it to be the most kid friendly and accommodating when my two sons were young and in the stroller stage of their  development. 

For those of you not familiar with the Lionel Collectors Club of America, the LCCA is a not for profit, volunteer organization with thousands of men, women and children who have an interest in Lionel trains. Founded in 1970 by Jim Gates of Perry IA, LCCA members live all around the world, but predominantly in the United States. The purpose of the club is to promote and foster an interest in Lionel trains specifically and toy trains in general and have fun while doing it. If you have an interest in Lionel Trains, this club is a fun organization to belong to. We provide our members with award winning Publications and Website www.lionelcollectors.org, Facebook accounts  award winning LCCA video productions as well as an opportunity to purchase limited edition  LCCA train products made by Lionel exclusively for our members. 
 
Our Premier publication, "The Lion Roars" featuring all original articles written by our fellow members is mailed to your home 5 times a year. No matter what era of Lionel Trains or area of interest you have, this publication is well balanced. Our members share their personal stories and experience about the hobby, layouts, human interest stories, prewar, post war and modern toy trains, as well as articles intended for our Junior Members.  Everyone has one good personal story to tell about themselves and their trains. So, join the club and submit your article for possible publication or listing on our website. 
 
We also have a buy/sell/Swap toy train publication, "The Interchange Track" that our members receive 4 times a year in the mail. In addition, our members have private access to the E-track web based buy/sell/trade section in the Members Only Section of our website. Members can buy, sell and trade 24 hours/day, 7days/week, 365 days per year with thousands of members from all over the country.
Our award winning website www.lionelcollectors.org is our best communication tool that keeps our members up to date with the most current club information. Frequent videos regarding toy related topics, news from Lionel and club business are posted regularly on this site. In our video gallery section of our website, we have posted hundreds of original and exclusive LCCA production video clips on YouTube.   Our 2012 Holiday in NYC video received a prestigious Telly Award.
 
Because of our close and special relationship with Lionel, we are able to video record  new Lionel products under development,  and share  them with our members and guests who visit our website throughout the entire year.   We have posted several video interviews with Lionel 's past CEO Jerry Calabrese and Current CEO Howard Hitchcock on our website.  We recommend you designate  www.lionelcollectors.org as one of your favorite sites; so you can easily access the most current information regarding club news and announcements.
The LCCA host exciting and well attended annual toy train conventions in different cities all around the country every year in July. This year we celebrate our 44 th  annual convention at the Marriott East Hotel in Indianapolis IN July 20-26,  2014.   Seats are still available aboard our special run of the NKP 765 Steam train excursion round trip from Kokomo to Logansport IN.  OGR Publisher Rich Melvin William be at the throttle during this special excursion.
 
As a NASCAR sponsor, Lionel will be bringing some die-cast NASCAR  related items.   The NASCAR Brickyard 400  Race will be held on Sunday July 27 at the world famous Indianapolis Motor Speedway.   For specific information regarding our recent Conventions and our upcoming Indy Convention go to our Convention Page in the club's website www.lionelcollectors.org
 
Lionel fully supports our annual conventions by bringing their operating layout and display.   Every year, Lionel representatives attend our Conventions, host a two hour Lionel Seminar, conduct interactive clinics and live demonstrations.   Our members have an opportunity to learn about upcoming product and Lionel's future plans during this seminar. 
 
We recognize that every member can not attend our annual conventions every year, so the LCCA Board of Directors have created a Special  Events program with family oriented, fun, toy train related events being held in various cities all around the country throughout the year. This is part of LCCA President Dennis DeVito's plan to reach out and have contact with over 2300  LCCA members and families each year.  Lionel sends representatives to support many of these LCCA Special Events.  For more information about these fun filled, family oriented activities go to our special events page on our website www.lionelcollectors.org
 
In addition, because of our special relationship with Lionel, we are able to provide our members with the opportunity to order and purchase, specially designed, limited edition, and collectible LCCA train products.   Every year, we offer a unique, specially  designed Annual convention car produced by Lionel.  To celebrate the 150th Anniversary of the great train chase of the Civil war, the LCCA commissioned Lionel to produce a pair of commemorative General steam locomotive engines and tenders.  In 2012 we introduced the Texas "Tommy" Special train set as well as a desirable Diamond mint car.  Lionel  makes these limited edition, unique products exclusively for LCCA members. This year we offered our members a unique Lionel Monon Operating boxcar.  For information regarding our most recent product offerings, go to the "LCCA store" section or product development section on our website.
 
Frequently, we offer our members discounted prices on certain select Lionel catalogued items.  In many cases, the savings achieved on the purchase of one train  item will exceed the cost of a one year  membership.   In essence, you can purchase a train and have a free one year  membership. 
There are so many reasons and membership benefits for belonging to the Lionel Collectors Club of America. So why not treat yourself and join the club.   We have three  membership categories, Regular Member (RM) Electronic Members ( EM) and Junior Member ( JM). 
 
Regular Members are 18 years old and older and are allowed to vote for our LCCA volunteer elections.   Regular members receive hard copies of our printed publications via USPS Mail.  Electronic Members are able to read the club publications posted as Files in the "Members  Only" section on our website; which is password protected.  We believe people who live outside of the continental US will also benefit from this new Electronic Membership because they will not have to pay a postage premium.  Regular Members also have access to the electronic files for all of our club publications. 
 
For those of you under the age of 18 years, we have a Junior Membership.   Our Junior Members receive our club publication "The  Lion Cub"  five times a year which features articles written by children or ones for children to enjoy.  
If you have a friend or loved one who has in interest in Lionel Trains, you can even give them a one a one year gift membership into the LCCA?  Try it for a year, we know you will like it. Join the club today and become part of "The Best Toy Train Club on the Planet!".  If you have any questions or need more information please contact me at 248-709-4137.

Al Kolis
President Elect & Special Events Manager
Lionel CollectorsClub of America
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I was a member of K line, Lionel, Atlas, and MTH now only Lionel,. Why because they make what I want, new items most of the time in there catalogs to choose from. The others are not making anything new, yes I know K line is dead. Atlas had the scale Zephyr cars and where great but what have you done for me lately. MTH???Nein, wir haben amerikanische neuen Züge nicht mehr machen,

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Al, I'm an LCCA member also.  It is a great group... the topic here, as initiated my Milwaukee Road Paul, though is the "clubs" run by the manufacturers.
Originally posted by Al K.:

 

 

 

I am a member of the LCCA and many other train clubs.  I found the LCCA to be very friendly and family oriented.  
 
 

 

 

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Soooo Let me say that I am not intentionally wishing to hurt anyones' feelings but..

Here is a rough approximation of the costs of these clubs.

 

Atlas $70 per yr

Lionel $20 per yr

MTH $50 per yr

Williams $75 per yr

Weaver $70 per yr

TCA $55 per yr plus my local region is extra $25

LOTS $35 per yr

TTOS $35 per yr

NASG $25 per yr

LCCA $35 per yr

 

I don't really need new catalogs. If and when I want to buy new items, then I look at the websites for new offerings. My LHS offers new Lionel and MTH catalogs for sale at $5 each (which he gets for free btw). I have approx 100 older catalogs from various manufacturers stored in boxes. I have 20 yrs worth of CTT mags in storage. I do not buy anything new or newer really. I pretty much only run old postwar and MPC. I dont run anything scale. I have nothing but trouble in the past with the preorder system (my LHS is forgetful and wont order for you)

I prefer 027. I have 4 scales/sizes of trains plus tinplate. No I am not a hoarder really. I just buy items from my childhood that I could not have then. Or something that really catches my eye. 

 

So basically why would I join any of these groups? Why would I need to? Why does everybody else do it? 

I read S.W. Hiawatha's comment twice, because it was both amusing and relevant to

me.  Since by the "handle" I use on here you can presume I am not into buying cars

with the mfr's. name in big block letters anywhere on it (except on the frame if you

turn it over, which I try not to do while running it), or some wild color scheme seen

on circus posters but not protoype railcars.  I also am into an era that knew few

diesels and no modern, high cube cars, so none are allowed.  One major club I belonged to in the past, but abandoned when they got into some kind of political hassle, and the local group became less active, produced a convention car that I had to have, and I glommed it.  I worry about missing some other good renderings, but mostly what I see offered ain't that and aren't allowed on the property. That was a club car....I can't recall a manufacturer's car that wasn't offensive, but I kind of think

they are too modern, or comic book, and I just ignore them and might have missed

something.  The upper Mich. club has done some defunct and obscure RR cars that

were passable models, and I wish other clubs might do that for regional, vanished

roads, preferably scale models.  But something with "Billy's Trains" on it, etc., will be ignored.

Colorado

 

Sounds like we are on the same wavelength. I'm a little less strict about what goes on my layout (I have three sets of automobiles to change the appearance for different eras, and I do own some semi-modern (70's and 80's) diesels and rolling stock) but the underlying philosophy is similar. 

 

Did you catch the Atlas Pacific Northwest jackpot a few years ago? Atlas put out a Bellingham Bay Brewery woodside reefer as the club car. Right around the same time, Andy Peterson and a collectors' club in Canada collaborated on a Bellingham Bay & British Columbia  double sheathed boxcar, and Peterson did a Rainier Beer woodside reefer. The two by Peterson were also built by Atlas. The BB&BC was a Milwaukee Road subsidiary, and I collect beer cars, so needless to say I was a happy camper!

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SW:  I collect beer cars but just for four states including Colorado, and I have tried to

research other breweries there that might have had the cars including one in Denver,

and several in Pueblo, including one in Pueblo that was a subsidiary of a Wisconsin

brewery (while I don't collect Wisconsin cars, I have been to the brewery museum

there, but already knew Wisconsin seems to have had dozens of little breweries, some

of which may have had still unidentified and modeled cars)  The club car I got was

for the Marble, Colorado marble quarry, and came with a load of real marble.  The

quarry operated its own railroad for years (at least two books have been done on it),

so it and the car were a piece of Colorado history.  The car has no garish, distracting

markings.  The marble plant is in ruins, the track is gone, and the town of Marble is

similar to other Colorado mining camps in that it'd be a ghost town except for the

people with summer cabins.  They ARE, I think sporatically, quarrying marble and

shipping it out in trucks.  There was a coal mine operation there fairly recently and

discussion about relaying the railroad to haul out coal.  Mining management killed the

idea when they were told it would have to be a common carrier and they would have

to also ship out cattle and sheep.  Getting cars from your area of interest is really good luck.

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