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Originally posted by RickO:
Well we he said "We will do the 261" that didn't work out too well. Maybe he said something...... but it was British Big Grin


Or German ,or Swedish but it sure wasn't steam and it sure wasn't American.

How did the South American baseball player say it.

Europe been barry barry goot to me. Big Grin

David
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Originally posted by bluelinec4:
Why did he have to say anything earth shattering He came to hang out and have a good time not announce that MTH is taking over the world.


Hey Ben,

Just how many showed up for your great event? Did you take any group photos this time? Please post if you have them.

Come **** or high water, I am coming next year. No more excuses for not attending. From the videos I saw, the layouts are incredible. Certainly I don't want to miss this in the future when a gathering of great folks such as this one is happening right in my own backyard of NJ.

I really enjoyed the Tom Snyder's video posted by Mark (Number One). Thanks Mark!

Great photo here posted by Jim Rawlings:



I like the palm trees here:



Thanks to all those who posted videos and great photos of Trainstock!

Prairie
OK, I had to work but I swear I ill make it there soon.

Maybe Mike was speaking Eurodollars. He was quietly saying that the Europe economy thing is heading south down the toilet quickly, maybe time to rethink this Europe thing.

I asked Grandpappy why he left Italia, he said" Nota noffa good tomato to make good gravy. Idiot Mussolini make the trains run on time but they still looka like C%^&".

Ok, just kidding.
I had a small chat with mike, and I asked him about making the DL&W #952 4-4-0 camelback thats in st. louis and he said it would need new tooling to make it. also asked about 2 rail scaletrax, again he said new tooling. no new tooling till the economy gets better.

As I do not blame mike for those statements, and now with the statement allen just posted. Looks like we better be happy with what we have, or trains may become a luxury item...
My wife Olga and I met Mike on Saturday for a few second's
He posed for a picture with me,we made some small talk about the Cheasapeake Bay,and the Inner Harbour.
This is one of the people that has transformed our hobby as we know it
Meeting him Saturday was the highlight of my day.
My wife and I found him to be very nice
I also think Mike has done more for O gauge than anyone else I can think of in recent history. The "only make US trains" bunch needs to realize that Mike's company foray into HO and European markets is not only good for HO and European train fans but is of course good for MTH and might just be the savior of US models being made. In other words, what's good for MTH will be good for all O gauge modelers. And don't forget, it's reported that the first Euro model Mike produced, the French Chapelon, has been MTH's best seller, ever.
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Originally posted by Dave Allen:
I also think Mike has done more for O gauge than anyone else I can think of in recent history. The "only make US trains" bunch needs to realize that Mike's company foray into HO and European markets is not only good for HO and European train fans but is of course good for MTH and might just be the savior of US models being made. In other words, what's good for MTH will be good for all O gauge modelers. And don't forget, it's reported that the first Euro model Mike produced, the French Chapelon, has been MTH's best seller, ever.


I agree wholeheartedly. The more cashflow MTH produces from ANY country increases the likelihood that we will see the more esoteric USA models that we want. I think he should tap India for a customer base, as it is a big "train country", with a growing middle class.
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Originally posted by jay jay:
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Originally posted by Dave Allen:
I also think Mike has done more for O gauge than anyone else I can think of in recent history. The "only make US trains" bunch needs to realize that Mike's company foray into HO and European markets is not only good for HO and European train fans but is of course good for MTH and might just be the savior of US models being made. In other words, what's good for MTH will be good for all O gauge modelers. And don't forget, it's reported that the first Euro model Mike produced, the French Chapelon, has been MTH's best seller, ever.


I agree wholeheartedly. The more cashflow MTH produces from ANY country increases the likelihood that we will see the more esoteric USA models that we want. I think he should tap India for a customer base, as it is a big "train country", with a growing middle class.
John, in years to come, India's billion people and China's 1.2 billion, will have a middle class of many hundreds of millions. Both countries have massive rail networks, and I think you are right, the hobby will grow there. I have a friend at my club into HO, he collects Chinese trains, there are lots of them, steam through to very high speed, and I'm sure Mike will be there to make them in O and HO.
Rats!! No hint as to when the McKeen car will wash ashore, either?
THAT sure took new tooling...all kinds of oddball branch lines ran
those, as well as the UP, which "Red" McKeen conned into associating with him. Way ahead of their time in styling, but, then
state of the art internal combustion engineering was not advanced
enough, and reliability was not their thing. We can presume MTH's
model will run a lot better than the prototype.
Anybody know the state of the one the Nevada RR Museum was
restoring? It was on the back of their lot when I visited years ago. This was the V&T one. The museum people asked me if I
knew what happened to the one that ran on the short line near
Toledo, Ohio, and had been turned into a diner. I thought I read
that one had burned. True?? Is the V&T one at the Nevada RR
Museum the ONLY surviving McKeen?
I had a brief chat with Mike Wolf and I inquired about the Swiss Crocodile delivery date which has so often been changed and the lastest indication is for April delivery. I like Mike and so I refrained from asking what year! I also asked whether there were any plans to produce scale period correct figures for the European passenger cars, but he seemed non-committal regarding that possibility and he pointed out that the figures are available from many sources abroad. I suggested that the figures are quite expensive and that it would be especially nice if MTH produced the figures and provided them with the cars like they do with the rest of the premier passenger cars. I respect Mike because he is willing to mingle with his customers and it is obvious that he is every bit a train enthusiast and not just another businessman.

Eric Hofberg
TCA, LCCA
MTH ASC Tech
[/QUOTE]John, in years to come, India's billion people and China's 1.2 billion, will have a middle class of many hundreds of millions. Both countries have massive rail networks, and I think you are right, the hobby will grow there. I have a friend at my club into HO, he collects Chinese trains, there are lots of them, steam through to very high speed, and I'm sure Mike will be there to make them in O and HO.[/QUOTE]


With all due respect Dave,but isn't China's and India's middle class earning mere pennies on the dollar if that, as opposed to folks here in the U.S.? Most people here shudder the thought of spending $500 on a locomotive much less $1000. Is there that much of a difference in priceing overseas.Does a scale O-guage loco sell for a fraction of the(U.S.) price over there?
Regarding the Mckeen motorcar; I neglected to ask Mike when that might be shipping, but I did have the pleasure of riding in the real Mckeen motor car this past summer during the TCA convention. The Nevada RR Museum did a fabulous job of restoration including building new trucks and replicating many other missing pieces. The museum is well worth a visit.

Eric Hofberg
I've got 47 O gauge locomotives:

(40) are Premier models

(5) are Railking models, and...

(4) are are Atlas O.

I started out with Lionel traditional products, and then one day my dealer lent me a video featuring MTH products...

Number (41) has been ordered, a few days ago.

Nobody forces me to buy... I buy what I like!

I agree, Mike's company stole the show...


Rick
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Originally posted by Kane:
I've got 47 O gauge locomotives:

(40) are Premier models

(5) are Railking models, and...

(4) are are Atlas O.

I started out with Lionel traditional products, and then one day my dealer lent me a video featuring MTH products...

Number (41) has been ordered, a few days ago.

Nobody forces me to buy... I buy what I like!

I agree, Mike's company stole the show...


Rick



You may want to correct your math.
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Originally posted by RickO:
John, in years to come, India's billion people and China's 1.2 billion, will have a middle class of many hundreds of millions. Both countries have massive rail networks, and I think you are right, the hobby will grow there. I have a friend at my club into HO, he collects Chinese trains, there are lots of them, steam through to very high speed, and I'm sure Mike will be there to make them in O and HO.[/QUOTE]


With all due respect Dave,but isn't China's and India's middle class earning mere pennies on the dollar if that, as opposed to folks here in the U.S.? Most people here shudder the thought of spending $500 on a locomotive much less $1000. Is there that much of a difference in priceing overseas.Does a scale O-guage loco sell for a fraction of the(U.S.) price over there?[/QUOTE]


Rick, there is enormous wealth in these countries. The working class earn the pennies. There are more than a million millionaires in China alone and this number is growing very quickly. I do think that trains made in China will of course sell much cheaper there, no shipping, taxes and middlemen.
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Originally posted by John Pignatelli:

I asked Grandpappy why he left Italia, he said" Nota noffa good tomato to make good gravy. Idiot Mussolini make the trains run on time but they still looka like C%^&"

Hi John, my cousin went to Italy many years ago. When he visited our two mothers home town he was so overwlemed by the beauty of the place he had to call home to ask his Mom one simple question. "Mom how could you ever leave this beautiful place to go live in South West Philadelphia"? Aunt Mary's answer was plain and to the point,"Eh, you can't eat scenery".
Hunger is a great motivation to move. Wink
quote:
Originally posted by Dave Allen:
I also think Mike has done more for O gauge than anyone else I can think of in recent history. The "only make US trains" bunch needs to realize that Mike's company foray into HO and European markets is not only good for HO and European train fans but is of course good for MTH and might just be the savior of US models being made. In other words, what's good for MTH will be good for all O gauge modelers. And don't forget, it's reported that the first Euro model Mike produced, the French Chapelon, has been MTH's best seller, ever.


+1
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Originally posted by gg1man:
quote:
Originally posted by John Pignatelli:

I asked Grandpappy why he left Italia, he said" Nota noffa good tomato to make good gravy. Idiot Mussolini make the trains run on time but they still looka like C%^&"

Hi John, my cousin went to Italy many years ago. When he visited our two mothers home town he was so overwlemed by the beauty of the place he had to call home to ask his Mom one simple question. "Mom how could you ever leave this beautiful place to go live in South West Philadelphia"? Aunt Mary's answer was plain and to the point,"Eh, you can't eat scenery".
Hunger is a great motivation to move. Wink


My fathers parents came to America from Italy as they were told the roads were paved with gold.
When they got here, my great grand father found that the roads were not paved with gold! They were not even paved. And, he had to do the paving! Big Grin
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"Eh, you can't eat scenery".
Hunger is a great motivation to move.


I think that is what drove most of our forefathers here, they were hungry!
My wife besides being a shrink does Genealogy and she is dang good at it.
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My fathers parents came to America from Italy as they were told the roads were paved with gold.
When they got here, my great grand father found that the roads were not paved with gold! They were not even paved. And, he had to do the paving!
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LOL and still LMAO!

Our Barber on 30th and Wharton had a sign in his shop, it said the following"
We will be closed on Sunday so we can go to Church and the street will be closed also. The city of Philadelphia is sending some truck and things to finish paving the street with gold"
We knew both is a lie.

Now one more thing, I have know Mike Wolf since he was selling Lionel and Weaver at booths at the train meets decades ago and I must have run into him a dozen time at least, I even Helped out at his displays on the West coast for s weekend.
I give Mike jabs at times, he knows I am kidding. But alas there is a certain crowd here that does not understand the word KIDDING.
It does not make me lose sleep if Mike made trains for India, China, Europe, Africa, or Mars. I would appreciate it if he made some new Engines for the folks in North America that look like trains from north America, but with the Economy in the toilet now I may not want to invest any money ANYWHERE if I was him. Now to prove that I still love MTH check with Sean and I am sure he can say I just spent a couple of large for the last MTH Catalog.
I hope that crowd can understand that. Large is American slang for 1000.00
John Mean Old Pignatelli
I have to jump in here and stand up for Mike Wolf. True he is a tough business man and has enjoyed alot of success because of it. But when did a trait like that become a bad thing? When ever I had a problem Mike Wolf was always willing to do what ever was resonable to help me and some times he went well beyound what was expected.
I say this because I'm nobody special guys, I'm just another customer in a long line of people. But the man always found time to give me direction on an issue or need.

Thank You Mike for making this a much better hobby then what it was when you started.
Mario;

I think you'll find that some of the angst against Mike Wolf still stems from the law suit against Lionel years ago. The purists were appalled that anyone would contemplate such an act, let alone go through with it.
No matter what you say, there are still some that will have "a stone in their shoe" about MW.
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