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FWIW, you can get the same camera for less than half that on eBay.  eBay: 152607629301, $32.98 shipped free.

LYD W203F1 2.4GHz 4-Camera Wireless Kit with 1 SPY Mini Camera

Even cheaper is eBay: 222340541984, $17.69 shipped free.

For a really small camera that works with those receivers, you can also pick up this, it's what I use.  It's 1/2" square by about 1.5" long.  Note that the connector dwarfs the camera!  Oh, it has sound as well.   eBay 222549723385, $23.99 shipped free.

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Stay away from the widely-acclaimed GoPro cameras. They are terrific cameras for most video shooting, but they are not well-suited for close-up model photography. They are a fixed-focus camera and cannot focus on anything closer than about a foot from the lens.

Also, some of the camera systems mentioned in this thread are NOT high definition cameras. The HD video frame is 1920 x 1080 pixels. A frame size less than that is not HD video. If you see 720x480, 720x486 or 640x480, that is old-fashioned SD video. If the camera is advertised as "720P" that is "pseudo HD" and not a full frame HD camera.

OGR Webmaster posted:

Also, some of the camera systems mentioned in this thread are NOT high definition cameras.

Well, he didn't actually ask for high definition cameras, I presumed he was looking for an engineer's eye view with an RF camera from the request.  None of the cameras mentioned were full 1080P HD cameras.

Remember, we're putting this inside the cab, so most of the Full 1080P cameras will be far too large.

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Rich is right about the GoPro. I even tried their close up lens system but it's very limited. First you either need a monitor hook up or the video back to see what's in focus. The field of focus is very short. Working with the lens underwater is just almost impossible, I'd be out of air before I got a usable shot. There are a number of good small cameras on the market but like anything else you need to spend a few bucks to get some good video results. The cheap cameras don't have good glass or electronics. Don

 

I like the first one, interesting unit.   However, it has no battery.  I use the Mobius camera, full 1080P and has a battery.

Rich, I bought one of these, but that's only the lens, the whole camera module is a lot larger.  It's also the most finicky camera I've seen, of course that's probably to be expected for the price. I've yet to get it to do anything but connect to my phone in ad-hoc mode, couldn't get it to join a network, which is what I wanted.

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IR Cut Camera / Features:

1, The Smallest camera, only 2.8x1.1x2.8 cm,more convenient to hide,stronger concealment;

2, HD 1080P, imaging more clear, more vivid colors;

3,Two 5*8MM night vision lights, 940nm Lamps, no light lighten,recording without flash, night vision distance can up to 5 meters; 

4, IR-CUT, activate/deactivate the night vision automatically, upon the ambient environment change;

5, Very easy to use, one-click video, one-click motion detection;

6, Loop video, can turn on and turn off;

7,Timestamp can show and hide.

Specifications:

Model: XD

Video Format: 1920X1080P

Memory support: 8 - 32G

Memory footprint: about 6G/ hour

Motion detection: 1080P

Frames: 30/second

Video format: AVI

Item Net Weight: 7g

Item Size:  2.8x1.1x2.8cm

 Package List: 

1 x  HD Camera

1 x  USB Cable

1 x User Manual

 Noted: No Built in battery,when used, the portable or fixed power supply will be connected.

Need a little help on this post from OGR Webmaster

1. Do you own this camera?

2. Looks like there is no power supply or batteries? If it does take a battery, what size?

Gary

 

IMO, the Mobius is a better deal.  It has a long life internal battery, interchangeable lenses, and a real mounting scheme.  Larger size, 1 3/8″ x 2 1/2″ x 3/4″ inches, but more capable.  It also does good looking video.  Might not be up to Rich's standards, but every picture doesn't have to be taken with a professional camera.   These start at around $70 and have tons of accessories you can add.

Product Specifications:

Angle of View

FOV around 110° Wide angle but with less distortion, minimum fisheyes distortion, almost same FOV as Mobius lense A

Video

1920 x 1440 1080P 30fps, 1080P 60fps, 720P 120fps, VGA 240fps H.264 AVC High Profile, MP4

Audio

aac

Photo2688x1512; 1600x1200; 1920x1080; 1280x960

Time Lapse photo supported

JPEG

Mode Switches

Video Mode 1, Video Mode 2, Photo Mode, (you can customize each mode to suit your application)

TV Out

PAL/NTSC. Low latency of composite video out, less 60ms 1080p 60fps, less 40ms 720p 60fps

Interface

Mini 10Pin USB (USB2.0 Highspeed)

Memory

Supports Micro-SD memory card (not included). Suggest Class 6 or above. 64GB card supported

LED Indicator Lights

Red, yellow, blue, green

Internal Lipo Battery

300mah. It can record about 30 minutes of 1080p 60fps

Power Input

Standard USB DC5V, with over voltage protection (5.6V-25V)

Dimensions

Approx 54.5mm(L) 29mm(W) 14mm(H)

Weight

Approx 27 grams only with battery included!

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gunrunnerjohn posted:

 

I like the first one, interesting unit.   However, it has no battery.  I use the Mobius camera, full 1080P and has a battery.

Rich, I bought one of these, but that's only the lens, the whole camera module is a lot larger.  It's also the most finicky camera I've seen, of course that's probably to be expected for the price. I've yet to get it to do anything but connect to my phone in ad-hoc mode, couldn't get it to join a network, which is what I wanted.

the mobius  record only..no live stream?

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Got it / Thanks 

If you do a YouTube search, there are a lot of videos about these button pinhole / small cameras.

I had one but image stabilization was an issue.  Back when I was teaching high school Graphic Arts and Photography, I used to have the students built a small pinhole camera, but for film.

Gary

trainroomgary posted:

Got it / Thanks 

If you do a YouTube search, there are a lot of videos about these button pinhole / small cameras.

I had one but image stabilization was an issue.  Back when I was teaching high school Graphic Arts and Photography, I used to have the students built a small pinhole camera, but for film.

Gary

Ah yes. The old pinhole camera. Built one when I was about 10 years old from an article in a magazine (Model Railroader?) Then I turned my bedroom closet into a darkroom. The developing skill came in handy when I flew on combat missions in Nam. Air Force frowned on unauthorized picture taking but I had an Instamatic in my pocket and then developed the pix. 

Gary E posted:

Ah yes. The old pinhole camera. Built one when I was about 10 years old from an article in a magazine (Model Railroader?) Then I turned my bedroom closet into a darkroom. The developing skill came in handy when I flew on combat missions in Nam. Air Force frowned on unauthorized picture taking but I had an Instamatic in my pocket and then developed the pix. 

Thank you flag gary e

 

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