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clem k posted:

Good morning 

I have a #6-11412 that I run with tmmc and DCS The locomotive came back from the paint shop with legacy on, I only use TMMC.  I can't find my manual and i want to set this locomotive up. How do i get it going again ?

Clem

I'm confused big time.  Whether or not the engine operates under legacy is determined by what remote you use.   You only have a Cab1/command base it will only operate in TMCC, If you access it by the Cab2/Legacy command base it will run with all the legacy features.    Here is the link to the product and scroll down to the manual.

http://www.lionel.com/products...mohawk-2797-6-29364/

Last edited by superwarp1

Turn the PGM/RUN switch to PGM, and program the ID.  Insure you get the whistle acknowledgement for the set.  Make sure that if you press the BELL, you don't get the bell, you'll get a whistle blast in PGM mode.

Turn the PGM/RUN switch to RUN, and make sure you can activate both the whistle and the bell.  This tests to see if the switch is somehow stuck in PGM.

If you're not getting these reactions, you need to look at the command base and make sure when you press the keys that the red light blinks indicating the commands are actually getting there.

If all that works out, test each function, coupler, toggle the headlight, crew talk, etc.

Finally, when you turn the throttle, what EXACT symptoms do you see.  Do you see the current change on your Z4000 meter?  That would indicate the motor is binding and is trying to move.

clem k posted:

This happens whenever this loco runs on a legacy system, Last time it took me two months to get two Mohawks running again. 

 That's what the reset is for, when you set the TMCC ID, it performs a reset.  However, I've been fixing this stuff for years, and my test bench uses a TMCC BASE1/CAB1, and I've never had issues switching between Legacy control and TMCC control with any locomotive, don't even know how that could happen.

Last edited by gunrunnerjohn

John its not the locomotive and its not the cab 1 or cab 1 remote. Like I said this happened before after it ran on Legacy, nobody could help me then and that was three years ago. took me two months to get it squared away. I forgot how I fixed it.

CJACK........There is a start button on the cab 1 and on DCS remote.

I usually run these double headed. I did something to make them both run at the same time without building a lash-up. On my DCS remote they are address 2&3, If I select any one of the two they both start. if one is on a dead track the other on power track it runs, thats what I do when I want run only one.                    

 question #1  Is there a reset option with tmmc cab one, like a DCS factory reset ?

 

Last edited by clem k

Ooops.

1. Slide the program run switch to the PGM position. 2. Plug in and connect your LEGACY Base. 3. Place your locomotive on the track, then power up the track. 4. Press ENG and enter the locomotive’s ID#. 5. Press SET. 6. Turn off track power and wait ten seconds. 7. Slide the program run switch back to the RUN position.
At this point, your locomotive has been reset. Restore power to the track and operate the

Well I got one back to normal, the one that was not painted. the original problem child runs again but not working right,  no smoke, no firebox glow, shut down button does not work, start up does not work, have to use boost for start, will not load into DCS. 

These where never made into a official  lash-up. I did something with the DCS numbers to make them work together.

I now deleted every lionel from DCS remotes except one remote that was still working with the unpainted engine. That I left alone, except changed cab number. 

At least i'm back where I started only one engine unusable.

Just in case...

TO REMOVE AN LOCOMOTIVE FROM THE LASH-UP
ASSIGN THAT LOCOMOTIVE TO TR 0 BY PRESSING TR, 0, 3, SET. LOCOMOTIVE 3 IS NOW REMOVED FROM THE LASH-UP TR5.

Also...you said something about moving when pressing boost...

THE LOCOMOTIVE DOES NOT MOVE WHEN THE THROTTLE IS INCREASED.

READDRESS THE LOCOMOTIVE.
• PRESS BOOST. IF THE LOCOMOTIVE MOVES, REPLACE THE BAT-
TERIES IN CAB-1. (ALSO TRY THE WHISTLE/HORN. THE ADDRESSED LOCOMOTIVE WILL RESPOND.)

clem k posted:

Once I get this locomotive installed in my Cab 1  How do I start the locomotive ?

 On DCS I push start 

Press the #3 button or the AUX1 button. The engine should come alive and make the sound of a small steam release. Then you should be able to rotate the red knob to the right to make it move. Turning the knob left slows the engine to a stop. Do you have the STEAM overlay for the CAB 1? If not their on ebay periodically or from the Lionel replacement parts site. P/N 610-8082-060

Button 1 - Increases the volume,   Button 2 - Crew Talk,   Button 3 - Start Up/Blow Off,   Button 4 - Decreases the volume,   Button 5 - Shuts down the engine,   Button 6 - is a steam release,   Button 7 - Tower Talk,   Button 8 - turns the smoke on and off,   Button 9 - increases the smoke output (L,M,H),   Button 0 - is the reset.    The link below is for the Cab 1L, but programming is the same for the Cab 1. Go thru it page by page, The smoke may be turned off program wise or the switch on the engine is. You may just have to turn it back on.

Your only interested in the programming, don't worry about the Legacy side of the instructions. They don't apply to the Cab 1 TrainMaster system.

https://www.lionelsupport.com/...28737155250CAB1L.pdf

I know this sounds very basic, Sorry.

 

Good Luck

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