MTH 20-2214-1 UP #80 Coal Turbine Set

When you turn the power on hear two bell rings let the sounds start up then shut power off then start back up gets engine out of reset then you can hit your direction button if not battery dead or needs a rest chip replaced.  

Also keep the power under 10 volts when you first turn it on. Other then that chessie1971 was right on.

if you hear the 3 clanks of death then you will need the reset chip. 

If the battery was dead you would have heard the 3 clanks of death. Also I am not sure the Z1000 is powerful enough to run that turbine. Remember it has 4 motors, sound and smoke units

replace the battery no matter what. 

Once a great innovator that made cutting edge trains and pushed the envelope in American trains like the coal turbine, I miss the old MTH.

Your right John, how sad it is. When was the last time something new and exciting were offered by MTH.  

When was the last time something new and exciting were offered by MTH. 

You must not have seen the European locomotives

Well once the bell rings 2 times there are no other sounds just the lights on. Only other sounds are the buzzing sounds from when I hit the whistle and bell buttons or the 2 bell chimes once I hit the direction button again. I am going to try to find another battery to test it out on, hope it works. Thanks for the information though.

No just 2 bell rings is all I hear for now, lets hope replacing the battery fixes it. Really think the Z1000 is to weak? Guess I need to get one of those Z4000 then lol.

My thoughts were mostly on the American trains. 

I have the same engine and really like it. When my battery died, I just swapped it out for a BCR. Tossed all 12 tires in one pass around the modular layout. I'd like to be able to say how much fun it is to swap tires on this, but.......

Enjoy your new engine.

Gilly

BTW it's a pulling beast even without traction tires. I was pulling 40 cars at the time and it didn't miss a beat.

Really, I wasn't sure what type of battery to look for besides the replacement MTH battery. I am new to this, don't have any kind of layout yet but when I move then I will have my loco ready lol. What is a BRC battery or is there any other good batteries I can get besides the MTH one?

Thanks

A BCR is a battery replacement. If my memory is correct, it contains a capacitor. In any case, apply power, wait about 30 sec, and away you go! If this thing hasn't been run in a while, you may want to go ahead and buy a dozen traction tires now...

It is my preferred puller for my "Train of Sin", the Beer & Tobacco train (plus one Graves Mortuary Supply car).

Gilly

CDC they way i read your post when you first turn power on wait a min or so then shut off power then turn back on hit direction button before the 2 bell rings if it does it went back into reset. If your sounds not coming on maybe check your volume pot on the engine is turned up and also you can turn volume down with transformer if you have the manual for that engine check your manual do feature reset and turn volume back up with transformer some people not like sounds on some engines they turn it down or off . I checked MTH website you can download the manual for that engine. 

Here is MTH link for the manual for that engine.http://www.mthtrains.com/sites...ction/20dl17383i.pdf

I went thru this with mine.  When I first got it, was pretty confused about how it works.  Coming from a conventional background, I thought I could just put it on the track and run it.  NOPE (and I was wondering if the engine was defective).  It has a rechargeable battery that most likely will not take a charge anymore.  I didn't realize that the battery is absolutely critical to the thing being able to run.  It's NOT optional.  I put a regular 9v battery in it to test and it ran like a champ.  That battery came out and I put a BCR in.  Gilly is absolutely correct.  The BCR is a capacitor that 1) looks like a regular 9v battery and 2)charges up in about 30 seconds and will keep a charge for a couple of hours.  You should love the engine once you're familiar with it.  

Also, I read about needing a new chip or needing to reset the chip - I found info that lists the engines that were prone to this issue - the coal turbine was not one of them.

Thanks for all this information everybody. Does anybody have links to find the correct BCR batteries to use for the type of engine?

http://www.modeltrainstuff.com...-Repl-p/jwe-bcr1.htm

The engine set will not come out of reset until the battery is replaced. If you turn the transformer off and the souls quits immediately, it will not run. I have new MTH batteries @ 12.00 or battery replacements (BCR) @ 24.95 + mail if interested.

Chuck

www.Only3Rail.com

I have a couple PS-1 engines that are also not on the 3 clanks list.

I got with MTH batteries.

Reason: I don't want to wait for the BCR to charge before I can run.

If you forget and hit the Dir button too soon it does not work well.

And in my experience, the batteries are good for a decade. Not worth the extra money for me to get a BCR.

I got a battery from Harbor Freight today and tried it out and it worked great, I will look into a permanent solution later on when I get a layout someday but for now I can rest knowing it works. I took the battery back out so I can store the engine so all is good. Thank you to everybody and their feedback it helped a lot and yes this set is not like the conventional one lol. 

Glad to hear that and CONGRATULATIONS!