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Glenn,

 

Didn't know about the articulated two car set, it almost seems like a "protoype of the protoype!"  It's so low though, doesn't look like one could enter it from a standard coach.

 

The HO model reflect's the few b/w pictures I've seen, Sante Fe later repainted it entirely silver.  GN & CB&Q were the only other roads I know of that had a pendulum coach.

 

Wasn't the future wonderful???

 

Rusty

Alex...those pictured above that Glenn posted are the cars I alluded to when we talked.  About 20 years ago, I met a local gentleman that was retired from that era of the Santa Fe and apparently more cars were considered to match the color scheme of the locomotive however never were done.  Boy that would have been some train....love the window styles and shape of the car bodies. 

 

Anyway, the MTH matching set could represent the what may have been.....  I have the entire set plus some of the extra cars that MTH made over the years.  It is absolutely beautiful even though not prototypical...

 

Alan

Originally Posted by scale rail:

I would love to know the history behind this locomotive. Why did they pick such a color? It seems to me a strange thing for Santa Fe to do. I know it was a backup engine for the Super Chief but why blue. I didn't represent any color that Santa Fe used and doesn't  match any passenger cars. It is a nice looking engine though. Don

Well said, Don.  It was certainly not a practical color for a steam locomotive running east of the Rockies, where washing is not always possible in the cold season.

 

I saw this engine in 1949, completely by chance, when it made its one and only verified trip to Los Angeles.  It was on a section of the Grand Canyon at La Mirada, running fast.  It looked grey to me . . . the light blue was very light.  Until then, I didn't even know it existed.

Originally Posted by scale rail:

I would love to know the history behind this locomotive. Why did they pick such a color? It seems to me a strange thing for Santa Fe to do. I know it was a backup engine for the Super Chief but why blue. I didn't represent any color that Santa Fe used and doesn't  match any passenger cars. It is a nice looking engine though. Don

When the Blue Goose was delivered (1937,) there wasn't much to match, color wise.

 

The 1 and 1a were delivered two years earlier and were coach green, scarlet, cobalt blue and saratoga blue (according to the Santa Fe bible) and the few diesel switchers Santa Fe had at the time were basic black.  Can't nail down when the Zebra Stripes began, sometime after WWII, I gather.

 

The first Warbonnet E1's were also just emerging from EMC. (The Warbonnet was designed by GM's Leland Knickerbocker, not Santa Fe staff) so the Santa Fe at the time really didn't have any developed "color scheme" so to speak.

 

Passenger cars were Pullman or Coach Green, the stainless steel cars were also brand-spanking new.

 

Rusty

Santa Fe used some white glove procedures to save the stainless on the engine, but with heavy use in WWII the engine didn't wear well.

 

These are the BEST clear/sharp pictures I've seen of the engine in the late 40's after the war.

 

Bill Raia has quite a collection(more than just the Goose):

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/...9312/in/photostream/

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/...9232/in/photostream/

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/...9532/in/photostream/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4-8-4 #3765 was planned to have the same streamlining as the 3460, but weight considerations made the Santa Fe cancel that.  Even so, the 3765 did have stainless-steel handrails and the smooth pilot like the 3460.  Baldwin also ground down a row of rivets on the side of the tender of the 3765 for the stainless-steel strip that the 3460 has on hers.

 

Stuart

 

Very old news. I have it on reasonably good authority from someone who used to work at Lionel they were planning to producing their own version of the Santa Fe Blue Goose but decided against doing so when MTH finally brought out their revised ps3 version of the engine including the (4) car passenger set. Lionel's version would have been very similar to the MTH version with Legacy but without the 'fantasy' Santa Fe passenger car set. I can't help but think the Lionel Blue Goose engine would have most likely been equal to or perhaps better than the MTH version but my guess is Lionel decided there wasn't enough of a market for (2) Blue Goose's.

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