New Legacy EM1 Whistle Isn't What Many Wanted?

@Hot Water posted:

The first video is definitely NOT the classic PRR "banshee"! It actually sounds pretty correct for a PRR J1, or a T1, or an M1, or a K4s.

The second video sort of sounds a lot like the first video, but at an ever-so-slightly different "tone" or volume.

???

Banshee vs. 3 chime

https://youtu.be/VCokySRUNNw

@Dave Olson posted:

Attached is a clip of the whistle we've put in the B&O skus. It is the same that is in the video. It's a pitched down version of one of the hooter whistles we've used in the past. We felt it was representative of what we listened to in the video. I can certainly see the viewpoint of the whistle in the Y6b being similar as well. We chose what we felt was correct to use. (yes, just like in the Pennsy J)

For the chuffs, these engines do have what we call "drift chuff" which is where there are 8 chuffs/rev that phase in and out of each other to represent two different sets of chuffs. It's what we did with the Vision Big Boy. In the video, the engine is just in the part of the sequence where the two engines are chuffing at the same time. Hopefully that makes sense.

These engines are already on the water and will be shipped as-is. We will not be changing the whistle. I am just being up front about that. I'll likely get angry emails like I always do, but I cannot please everyone.

One thing that I look forward to with our new development for Legacy electronics is the 5 whistle/horn options. Every Legacy engine starting in the 2020 Big Book is getting the new electronics, and will features 5 different whistles and/or horns to choose from. For each sku, we will select the 5 whistles/horns that are applicable to the road name, with the selected "prototype" being the default.

Happy Tuesday!

Dave

Dave:

While we are on the subject of whistles, is Lionel doing anything to replace the prototypically incorrect whistle that was included the PRR JIAs that many of us purchased from the 2019 Big Book ? Thanks.

Pat 

@irish rifle posted:

Dave:

While we are on the subject of whistles, is Lionel doing anything to replace the prototypically incorrect whistle that was included the PRR JIAs that many of us purchased from the 2019 Big Book ? Thanks.

Pat 

 

 

Read Dave Olsons quote that you posted above again Pat. 

It says " we chose what we felt was correct to use. (Yes, just like the Pennsy J)"

So I'm thinking they may not do anything about it.

I'd be curious to see if they fix the 5 chuff  hudsons folks bought. I guess if they feel 5 chuffs is correct those won't change either

@RickO posted:

Read Dave Olsons quote that you posted above again Pat. 

It says " we chose what we felt was correct to use. (Yes, just like the Pennsy J)"

So I'm thinking they may not do anything about it.

I'd be curious to see if they fix the 5 chuff  hudsons folks bought. I guess if they feel 5 chuffs is correct those won't change either

Rick:

You are probably right, but I thought I would ask Dave anyway, since as a number of us have pointed out on prior threads, the whistle for the 2019 Legacy JIAs is not even close to being prototypically correct. 

Pat

@Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:

I have the black one #7609   2031090

they used different whistles on some of the other versions. I heard the DM&IR em1, it has the whistle used in the legacy Allegheny a few years ago. 

Dj, are you getting any of the electronic blips in the whistle when you activate the whistle or are moving from low to medium and medium to high and back down again???  Most noticeable when loco is not moving.