New Lionel 2014 catalog prices

And here I thought you were another sponsor adding his prices.  LOL!

Me too. Thought there was going to be another VL BB lower price!

Let me relay a true story. My neighbors daughter works for Coach handbags in NYC. Their most expensive designer handbag sells for $399.00. It costs Coach $16 to have this handbag made in China. True story!  Lionel is also following the same policy of relying on the brand name to trick the ignorant consumer into spending big bucks for cheap Chinese made goods that you can throw away when they need repair. I'll bet that it doesn't cost them more than $100 for that Legacy Hudson that lists for $2500. Come on, whose kidding who here? .

I know someone that can make them for $50.

I think your kidding yourself in exaggerating the numbers. The markup is considerable but not that much.

I'm not sure that Coach purse market necessarily conforms to the toy train market, as I bet the margins are different.

True story, though, on Coach handbags.  My wife loves Coach handbags and once a year buys a couple of them at the local Coach outlet store.  Last week she stocked up on them!   Here is an example of one she bought; original price $349; reduced to $249; in store half off lowest ticket price than an additional 20% off - $249 x 1/2 = $125 x 20% off = $99.

I have yet to find any of last season's trains for 72% of ticket price, but I look!

Jim

Does that $16 include free ePacket delivery?

My neighbors daughter works for Coach handbags in NYC.

Funny thing my daughter was a Manager for Coach in NY and VA. But really not a good example. Designer Handbags and Trains. :-)

Originally Posted by MartyE:
       And here I thought you were another sponsor adding his prices.

Marty - Although I tell folks about (sponsor) the OGR Forum, I'm  not selling any trains today.

Jim - My wife has also bought some Coach handbags at outlets at low prices as you mentioned.

OK folks: 

Now lets get back to our topic. Why have we not seen the big Lionel dealers announce their pre-order prices.

Jack 

There is absolutely no parallel in terms of mark-ups or pricing from the apparel industry to the hobby market.

The new Lionel 2014 Signature catalog offers some wonderful new products. Some of our good Forum sponsors have already posted their pricing which show some very good discounts below MSRP. Those who have not yet posted their sale prices will most likely do it very soon. It is still a very good time to be in our hobby.

Hey, Jack

I have two daughters 24 and 26 and they love Coach anything. I wished they loved Toy trains.

Could be wrong, but it seems to me that Charles Ro pricing on new catalog items always is a few weeks or so after the release date.  Not sure about TW. 

I would say that those that took the time to have their prices posted on OGR very early on are very Smart.

 I don't get all of the anxiety over the "big dealers" not posting their prices immediately after the catalog was available. THIS IS NOTHING NEW.

All of the paranoia surrounding getting VL bigboys ordered/ deadlines weeks before the catalog even came out

Whether you order it today, or the last day of the preorder or BTO date, you aren't going to get it any sooner, and  the price will be the same.

Maybe this catalog is just that good?

We spent alot of money and time upgrading both the buildings we are in and our inferstructure here in order to better serve you, the customer. It is time to bring the hobby/train store into the future in order to survive. Change is constant and so we must change our way of doing business also. Thanks for your support. Charlie and Chris...

and let's hope when they post their prices it can be contained into 1 thread.

I'm sorry, you DO remember that this is the OGR Forum, don't you?  Should be good for a half dozen threads at least. 

Which brings me to something I have always known that cost has little to do with the market price of a product. And it is meaningless to discuss it as consumers. The cost is really the business of the business and judging the morality of the business based on the consumers simplistic understanding of it's cost is in my mind inappropriate. If we as consumers were so knowledgeable about what it takes to run a successful business, we would be on the other side of the counter.

Come to think of it. I'll probably hold off any preordering until after York, in hopes Lionel will have  a "sample" of the heavy mike or other things like the newly tooled Pennsy caboose.

I'm not going to York, but I'm sure other members will "bring York" to the forum.

"Sort of like lining up at the gate to get on the airplane."

Marty, just be a 100K flyer and you don't have to do this anymore. 

The Markup for musical Instruments is about 100% (COG=$50, MSRP = $100).

Not in OUR industry! It is tight. In order to compete you need a great credit line, own your own wearhouse and buildings, be stable enough to be around a long time to gain customer trust and buy direct, not through a middle man.

Remember, it not ALL about price. Placing a order with the "lowest" dealer may look like a good deal but remember this. Can he really deliver? Will he stand behind it?

Thank you....Charlie and Chris.

I see Train World has most of the Signature Catalog posted today (3/28/14) but nothing for 2014 on Charles Ro's site yet.

Jack

The full color "page by page" catalog is up on our web site making it easier for you to check out Lionel's offerings next to our great discounted pricing! ----Adam VP of IT Development

I'd rather have a train seller that hasn't got around to posting prices as opposed to some that post them incessantly. I've managed to block the most flagrant of them, but it looks like I need to block some more.

Who does it hurt to post prices here? The more the the better IMO when dealers compete for our business. As long as they are ogr supporters it is a win, win.

if it bothers you, don't read it. 

Maybe Ro's goin out of buisness

I E-mailed them, They Said they were working on it!!!

O Well,

Fred

I am thinking that those that handed over deposits will RUE THE DAY...after the York posting of prices!!!

Legacy Station has the prices listed for the 2014 catalog and great prices to!

Marty I can do it for even cheaper, but ya gotta supply yer own wheels! lol

ro always seems to update their web site on weekends and usually the weekend after the catalog is released.

oh well.

Inquisitive minds need to know.