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A while back, I came across a "deal" on a solo K-Line Rock Island E8. It had formerly been part of an A-A set, but wasn't the lead A unit. As such, it had motors, but no sound or control hardware. After pulling it apart, it looks like there are 3 boards inside.

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The leftmost one basically takes the place of a few wire nuts, with 4 strips of connected wires. One strip has a blue wire from one motor, a brown wire from the other motor, a wire to the black 2 pin connector (which goes to the tether to the main A unit). The next strip has a brown wire from the first motor, the blue wire from the 2nd, and the other pin on the black connector. The two strips have 2 caps wired in series connected across them. I'm assuming the 2 pin connector brings in DC through the tether to power the motors. Not sure why the caps are needed unless it's to prevent power drop outs when the other A unit goes over a switch or something, since the motors are pulling power from there. Feel free to chime in if you know. I'm assuming the caps can be eliminated if I'm powering the 2 motors directly from the ERR DC commander board.

The middle board just has AC power coming from the other 2 strips on the first board, and a white 2 pin connector which goes to the roof fan motor. I'm assuming this can be powered directly from the AC pickup wires, and located elsewhere in the engine.

The third board is the most interesting. It seems this engine has a Mars light. It has 4 wires that go to the mars light, and 2 wires (brown and blue) which go to the 1st and 2nd strip on the first board. I'm assuming I can keep this board, relocate it, and just power it from the leads to the motors.

The other lights (cab, headlight, etc...) also come through the tether, but should be able to run from the lighting outputs of the DC commander board, correct?

If I'm not making any incorrect assumptions, I should be set to go, if I can figure out where to mount a speaker for the Railsounds. There was provision to mount a speaker in the fuel tank location between the wheels, but with the speaker enclosure, it's too tall to fit. Should I try it without the enclosure, or mount the enclosure somewhere inside the E8 shell?

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You would power the MARS board from the forward lighting output of the DC Commander.  Why aren't you using the Cruise Commander, the addition of cruise control is huge when you're running.

I'd pick a 2" speaker, which is the size made for the tank, and mount that in the tank, it's the best place for it.  I'd use something like the Visaton K50 8 ohm Speaker.  You can steal the wires with the connector off the ERR speaker.

You would power the MARS board from the forward lighting output of the DC Commander.  Why aren't you using the Cruise Commander, the addition of cruise control is huge when you're running.

Because I have several DC Commanders lying around and no Cruise Commanders? Any idea which connector on the Mars board (blue or brown) would go to the common? Were Mars lights always on when the train was running forward? Only time I've ever seen them in real life is when a train was entering a station.

You should have room in that engine for a 2” Fatboy or similar tall speaker and place in the engine. The screens on the body will let the sound out.
This is a Weaver E8 with a Cruise Commander and first generation ERR Railsounds. The new ones are considerably smaller.

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The board that has many wires to it and the cap can go. Mars light board is up to you. If you don’t put a smoke unit in there you use the R2LC and the correct feature code for mars light. You will likely want to keep the board for the ceiling fans.

Pete

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Decided for the time being to just mount the speaker that came with the ERR E8/9 Railsounds kit in the fuel tank with a few drops of Alene's Tacky Glue. That should hold it well enough barring anything but drops, and it can be removed later should I decide to go another way. Wasn't sure how well that would work, which was why I asked, but for the moment, being the only engine on a test track, it sounds OK. And, if I later decide to replace it with another speaker, or mount it in the body with the sound baffle, I can. At least I now know a couple of other options, and have expanded my knowledge base via the suggestions offered by John and Pete.

Kept the fan board (wrapped in Kapton tape to prevent shorting and taped to the inside of the shell to keep it out of the way). Again, something I can always more permanently attach elsewhere later if I need to. I was worried that the fan motor in the shell wouldn't clear the ERR board's heatsink, as I just drilled out an existing hole in the chassis to fit the heatsink's mounting screw without thinking that the fan motor would need to fit in when I reattached the shell. Thankfully it did.

The Mars light board (with its back covered in Kapton tape) fit in the space between the ERR boards and the program/run switch. Thought long and hard about replacing it with Ngineering's N8031B/N8101 combo and going with LEDs for the light, as it takes up so much less space, but since the board is working, and HERE, that's what I went with, again, for now.

Benched on the test track, it's all working, and I thank both of you for your input and suggestions. Now if I could just work out the shipping delays on 3 different shipments of 18" Golden State cars I could run it at the club...

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