Scale GG1 Comparison - GG1s live on!

quote:

Originally posted by bbreefer917:
Hey Jonathan,
Looking foward to receiving my "Old Rivets." I also received my Arizona Brewing billboard reefers (2nd release) today. They are magnificent!! You and the rest of the SE Division of TCA members are to be commended.
My best wishes to y'all "out West,"

Steve Painter

Steve,

I have to wait until the 13th to get my Apache reefer since I didn't pay for shipping .... glad you enjoy the car! I'm looking forward to that one too.

well, I was a bit premature and a little too hopeful. As it turns out the production versions of the G are not available yet. so don't expect to see them at our Cherry Valley show this Saturday.

Chris,

It appears we were both a bit over hopeful on this one! Apparently the 4800's don't start shipping until this Friday. Looks like another week. We've waited a while, so little more patience can't hurt I guess!

I've waited for this model for 40 years,I guess another week wouldn't matter. LOL

quote:

Originally posted by rheil:
Mr. Bradley,
As I understand it Max Gray only imported around a half dozen of the riveted GG1's. I did see one. It belonged to a fellow by the name of Henry Van Auken (sp?) in Florida

Another was owned by the late Larry Muir. Larry along with Mike Hill (former owner of 'Hill's Hobby Shop'), brought in brass tank cars under the "Hobbyhill" name. You can still find them on occasion if you are lucky! There was an article on Larry in a back issue of "O Scale News 48/ft" that pictured his 'Rivets' and it looked pretty nice. As I recall, it was pulling a consist of Bill Wolfer (another name now sadly missing from the "O" scale ranks) passenger cars. Bill would sometimes put a RABBIT passenger in the cars he built for certain patrons!

SW

Great thread! So much good information and wonderful photos. I've always coveted a GG1. Someday....

Alan

Sensational photos; thanks for sharing them!! DK

Did Sunset ever get their GG-1s in?

they were schduled to land last Friday. I have been informed that my model will ship by the end of this week, which means I will have mine in hand by the end of the following week.

Here is a new GG-1 East Wind set for my GG-1 family...










JohnnyJT
South Philly

Did anyone get there's yet? I didn't get mine. Should of had it by now if it shipped March 5th.............

It is sounding like they might start arriving this week, perhaps towards the end of the week. That is what I am hearing now. Mine have not arrived either, but I'm looking forward to when they do!

The GG1's started to be shipped today. I had a riveted sample model on display at the Chicago 2 rail show this past weekend. Other forum members can post their comments about it. I know of at least 5 additional 2 rail orders that were placed after people saw it.

U.P.S. tracking shows I will be receiving 2 cartons next Monday.A whole week of waiting!
Tom

I received my UPS shipping notification today that it was in their hands on the 15th. Mine is expected to arrive on March 22. I am in Chester, VA.

My shipping notice arrived just now and I am scheduled to receive mine on the 17th!

the waiting is the hardest part... every day just one more yard.

Please tell me the frame is not articulated in a non-prototypical manner?

Bob,
The frame is not articulated in a non prototypical manner.

UPS did a reschedule on me. They arrive today. About 2 hours and counting. Pictures tomorrow.

The 1935 wide stripe "Strasburg" scheme and the Bicentennial version arrived at my office about an hour ago and all I can at this point is WOW. These are amazing models. The refinement of the brass over the cast models is just too hard to describe with words, but pictures will be forthcoming tomorrow when I have some time.

If you didn't order on and were interested, you should order one. These are the best looking GG1's in my entire collection. I can't wait to run them.

I have the 50's Loewy 5 stripe, it was to be shipped out soon, maybe a little longer to Jersey.

There's a shot of her in South Amboy in that scheme, just had to have it!

SAM

Sam - where did you find that photo? Could you post a link or a resource? I had a heck of a time finding good references of the 4800 in that scheme. Thanks!

E-mail sent

SAM

Thanks Rheil - mine arrives manana, if UPS is accurate in their scheduling. Looking forward to seeing this beauty.

quote:

Originally posted by rheil:
Bob,
The frame is not articulated in a non prototypical manner.

Did they really articulate the frame in a prototypical manner? I’m trying to figure out how they could manage that. The two frames of the prototype are connected together by an articulation pin at the center of the locomotive. The ends of frames are free to hinge back and forth under the body since the traction motors are contained inside the frames. On every model GG1 that I own from Z to G scale, the front and rear frames swivel over the center driver in each frame . Not very prototypical but necessary so that there is no side to side movement of either motors or gearboxes which extend up into the body.

Prototype photo of GG1 4800 in the standard DGLE 5 stripe scheme courtesy of Sam. The image appears to be at South Amboy, but I'm too young to remember the NEC with grade crossings. I know there were a few towards the South end. Thanks Sam.

Finally some photos of the 4800. I'll let the photos speak for themselves.

1935 Post Loewy Modification:

















Bicentennial Conrail:

















Enjoy!

Maybe it's me but are the rivits not more pronounced on the 1:1 than the model? Looks good though!

The photos are as much as four times the actual model size. It looks very credible when viewed at actual size and much smaller than rivet sizes produced by one of the competing manufacturers in cast

WOAH! That is an incredible loco!

VERY NICE WELL DONE THAT.

Beyond nice Jonathan ..detail locks better than the JLC and thats a hard act to follow.. Enjoy...

Fabulous GG-1's...I know...NO DASH...is the FLAG in HONOR of a FAMILY MEMBER???

Jonathan,

The 4800 photo in the late five stripe is at South Amboy. It is on the New York & Long Branch, that's the reason you see the crossing. At that time the "wire" only went that far, the motor was westbound and is about to be cut off to put on diesel power for the rest of the trip to Bayhead.

SAM

This models has more detail then the 2-rail Custom Brass model that came out 25-30 years ago. This is the best O-scale GG-1 I have ever seen ( I've never seen the Koh's one). Mine is due to arrive Monday. CAN"T WAIT!!!

quote:

Originally posted by Samtrak:
Jonathan,

The 4800 photo in the late five stripe is at South Amboy. It is on the New York & Long Branch, that's the reason you see the crossing. At that time the "wire" only went that far, the motor was westbound and is about to be cut off to put on diesel power for the rest of the trip to Bayhead.

SAM

Sam,

Thanks for the confirmation. That crossing looked familiar, but with the baggage car in tow, I wasn't totally sure. I remember the days before the electrification was extended South the Long Branch. E8's to GG1's was a pretty familiar scene while the GP40p's rolled on through to terminate in Newark.

Fine looking model, was the stripping that thin on 4800 alone or did all the early GG1's have that thin stripping?
John

Very nice photos. I can see that the frames are done to perfection, except maybe for that spring over the lead truck.

I would quote a question above, but have forgotten how to do it here. Must be getting old - I cannot even post photos here anymore. Anyway, the question about articulation: The two frames are pinned at the inner ends by a giant clevis, but the body is supported outboard - the frames actually swing somewhere around where a modeler would place a can motor. A model can leave out the articulating pin, but usually there is enough slack in there for operation. I was worried that the frames would be articulated between the drivers and the lead truck - a horrible thing to do to a GG1 model. Opinion.

A 'rivet counting' question for '4877: I first thing I noticed on the model of the Bicent. version [ nice photos by the way ] were the steam and signal air lines. Correct ? [ I scrolled back to the prototype photo on the previous page, but it was too dark -- naturally ! -- in that area to tell.]

And, out of curiousity, why are you displaying a Reading Company quasi-WDT on your mantle next to the G ?

Best regards, SZ