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The pictures are of the sound board (610-8122-040) in an ACL F3B (6-11903 from 1996) with only a couple hours of run time.  It's acting up.  Popping and crackling when first turned on.  Then okay while running for the most part.  Crackling again in shut down under battery power.  Did a forum search and see that seating of parts on board could be an issue.  But my question is about the white substance all over one end of the board.  Anyone know what it might be? 

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If I have to replace the board, more than likely it has long since become unavailable, but I am sure there is a replacement. I say that because even if I had the proper pulling tool I wouldn't know which component to "re-seat."

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One other common sound board issue is oxidation of the contacts on the two PLCC chips.  I have fixed a number of these by simply reseating the chips.  Note that you MUST have a PLCC extraction tool to do that task, trying to pry them out with a screwdriver or other such tool will most likely break the socket.

 

If GGG's suggestions don't do the trick, reseating those chips is the next step.

 

It looks like thermal grease.  This is used to improve the transfer of heat from the heat producing components to the heat sinks.  It appears that the white substance is confined to the end of the board where the heat sink is mounted. 

 

Thermal grease is most often seen with complex integrated circuits like CPUs and DSP (digital signal processors, i.e., sound chips) and voltage regulators. 

 

I expect that a person handled the board got excess grease from the components on their fingers. 

 

Jan

Originally Posted by gunrunnerjohn:

One other common sound board issue is oxidation of the contacts on the two PLCC chips.  I have fixed a number of these by simply reseating the chips.  Note that you MUST have a PLCC extraction tool to do that task, trying to pry them out with a screwdriver or other such tool will most likely break the socket.

 

If GGG's suggestions don't do the trick, reseating those chips is the next step.

 

I actually recommended reseating the chip.  G

Everything on the board on both sides looks okay to my untrained eye. I cycled the volume pot several times.  I can try the speaker on another engine to at least test it.  Correct?

 

I did what you suggested in another thread, Gunrunner, and went to Radio Shack for a plastic leaded chip carrier extractor.  They no longer carry them according to the store associate, so I will order one.  Is there a particular size I need or are they pretty much one size fits all?  When I get one, I will have to ask which components to "extract."  What are the two PLCC chips and is there anything else to be reseated?  Thanks.

One size fits all.  The two PLCC chips are the problem ones.  The other stuff is soldered on the board, no reseating there.  I'd use some alcohol and clean the white residue off the board, though as previously stated, that's very unlikely to be significant.

 

Here's a PLCC Extractor for $5.99 with free shipping.

 

When you extract the chip, you make sure the hooks are all the way to the bottom of the socket on both sides.  Start squeezing and make sure a hook doesn't slip off as the chip start moving.

 

All you really have to do is pull it up, remove the tool, and immediately press it back into place with your thumb.  The object of the exercise is to just move the contacts and remove any corrosion that may be causing the problem.

 

 

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Fixed!  Thank you for the help!

 

It did lead me to another question just for education.  In my all thumbs manner I pulled both wires loose at the Control switch that lead to the LCRU in this unit.  While soldering them back I noticed the slide switch is wired so when the switch is in what the manual calls the "ON" position the blue and white wires are connected through the switch. In the "Program/Lock" position the switch is simply disconnecting those two leads. So, in general, for programming, is any control switch really just disconnecting the "Run" or "On" circuit, or is it a lot more complicated than that?

 

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