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I was running trains on the layout yesterday afternoon and suddenly the engine stopped responding to the Cab 1L remote. I attempted to kill the power on the rail but the Powermaster would not respond. I figured the batteries were dead and put in a fresh set. All was good with the new batteries but on a whim I wanted to check the voltage on the bad set, they were all just shy of 1.5 volts. The strange thing I found was that one of the batteries now had reversed polarity. Has anyone else found this? I checked this set again this AM and I was not imagining it, one battery has reversed polarity. Any ideas what happened or why?

Ray

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"I'm not aware of a battery chemistry that can spontaneously assert a reverse charge.  The only way I've ever seen it is if it was charged that way. This can happen if cells of different capacity are used in a series string.  The weakest one will discharge to zero, then the remaining better cell(s) will put reverse current through it and force a reverse charge.

A plausible explanation is the two cells you picked were at different capacities, likely the reversed one was dead or nearly so when you put it in there.
Alkalines in particular have a pretty linear open circuit voltage vs state of charge.  A quick check with a voltmeter will tell you how much is left, 1.10 being dead and 1.535 or so being new/full.

Mark K5LXP
Albuquerque, NM"

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I did automotive repair for several years and the only way a battery can have a reverse charge is if it is charged in reverse or the battery was manufactured wrong. However most batteries will not take a reverse charge without doing something first like sparking at the terminals. I am not familiar with small batteries and their abilities but most 12 volt car batteries will take a charge only in the correct polarity.

With smaller household batteries you might be able to charge the battery in reverse for a few minutes without much problems other then the battery leaking or popping off(blowing up). As for charging 2 or more batteries together in series I don't recommend it unless you know what you are doing.

Lee Fritz

BOBBYD,

Thank you for this link, there is one reply that seems to fit what happened here. The set of batteries in question came from the new pack of batteries that I had recently opened, they were not of a mixed consistency, all were brand new. Looks like maybe bad from new. I will watch for more of this from that package.

Ray

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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2011, 12:34:01 PM »
 

I'm tempted to say only yes, but that would be a bit brusk.

When alkaline batteries go bad, they will sometimes take a reverse charge, due in part to a change in their internal chemistry.
 

Walmart has been really pushing Rayovac batteries at a good price, but I'll never buy them again. I recently changed out some AA in window candles and also some AAA in a LED flashlight in the kitchen junk drawer and found several have leaked. As far as reverse polarity, I had a white MTH 8.4 volt that had reverse polarity. They all go in the garbage as soon as I receive a used engine with one installed. 

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