super TIU mode with new WTIU

Any luck? I have the same question

I have not received my WTIU yet. It is probably with the second batch.

The guide says this should be doable.  Page 5 of the guide.

My question is why do you want to replace your TIU with a WTIU if everything is working now?

I am having signal issues using the app with TIU 3. I have full control with TIU 1 and 2 . The trains continue to run when they enter TIU 3 district based on the last signal received from either TIU 1 or 2.Once the trains come back to TIU district 1or 2 I regain control.

I am interested to compare the results of the TIU WTIU combination using the app vs the remote.

@amtrack5899 posted:

I am having signal issues using the app with TIU 3. I have full control with TIU 1 and 2 . The trains continue to run when they enter TIU 3 district based on the last signal received from either TIU 1 or 2.Once the trains come back to TIU district 1or 2 I regain control.

I am interested to compare the results of the TIU WTIU combination using the app vs the remote.

Ok so you are thinking you have some sort if issue with TIU 3, it sounds like?

Did you take TIU 3 out of super mode and try it by itself?  Only saying because if it's some other issue besides the TIU then buying the WTIU won't resolve it.

I am in a similar situation running two TIU with WiFi.   In 2020,  I ordered a rev L to replace my original rev g TIU, but that order was cancelled and became the WTIU.   I do run them in super mode and using the MTH network.  Once my WTIU comes in, I will replace my oldest TIU and use it for the holiday tree layout.  I will test this out later this week.    

When I asked Steve Nelson regarding super mode with the WTIU, he told me that super mode would not be available when using the WTIU.  That is why (in addition to my desiring to use my 8 handhelds) I have ordered two WIUs.

My WTIU came in this week and I have been testing it.   I run 2 TIUs using and the WTIU replaced my older rev G TIU.   I configured the WTIU and my rev H (with WIU) to run in supermode.  I had no issues in getting the engines to respond on both TIUs using the APP.  

what is a track interface device ?

@Bob is cool! posted:

what is a track interface device ?

Bob,

Do you mean "Track Interface Unit"?

   Or, specifically "Track Interface Device"?

Mike

Devise

Update on super TIU mode with 3 WTIU.  I had connecting issues using the WPS buttons to connect the 3 WTIU’s. I consulted with Steve Nelson AKA “Mr Muffin” and I am now using a TP link wifi router. The make or model of the router probably doesn’t matter , this is just what I found online. The 3 WTIU’s are connected to this router with ethernet cables.

I made a 9 foot test track and it is separated into 3 , 3 foot isolated blocks. One for each WTIU.

I did have to put the WTIU’s in super tiu mode. I experienced poor communication between the WTIU’s in regular mode. All of the channels have been set to fixed and the wi/fi mode is set to mth on all WTIU’s. The wifi mode is probably immaterial since I am using an external  router.

I am still in the testing stage but everything seems to be running quite well. Every once in a while I get a “ Request Failed an error occurred while programming engine startup/shutdown.” I can simply select either cancel or refresh and the message goes away without issues.

Has anyone else experienced this error message or is it specific to my set up?

Thanks

Rich R

Rich. I have not experienced exactly what you are referring to with that error message etc. I am interested in your setup as this is different than what the WTIU online manual indicates. It was my understanding that one WTIU is set to MTH wifi mode and the others to HOME wifi mode. But I understand that you are physically wiring them to the router with Ethernet. Please keep us updated on what you are finding down the road. Does seem to defeat the purpose of a WiFi “W”TIU. There is not way I can set up my layout this way as my router is upstairs, the layout is downstairs and the WTIUs and on positive sides of the layout. We shall see what happens with firmware. Just wish I didn’t have to get under and press the WPS buttons EVERY time I ran trains.

Mike

Hi Mike, I am not using my home wifi system . This is a separate router that I bought specifically for the trains. This router is not connected to the internet . This router is connected to the 3 WTIU’s via ethernet cables. The ipad connects to the router via the routers wifi and the router manages the connection to the 3 WTIU’s. Think of it similar to Lionels Base 3 access point.  I don’t plan on putting it on the layout until all of the bugs are worked out.

Steve Nelson from MrMuffins said that this is how he has his layout setup.

Thanks

Rich R

@amtrack5899 posted:

Hi Mike, I am not using my home wifi system . This is a separate router that I bought specifically for the trains. This router is not connected to the internet . This router is connected to the 3 WTIU’s via ethernet cables. The ipad connects to the router via the routers wifi and the router manages the connection to the 3 WTIU’s. Think of it similar to Lionels Base 3 access point.  I don’t plan on putting it on the layout until all of the bugs are worked out.

Steve Nelson from MrMuffins said that this is how he has his layout setup.

Thanks

Rich R

Thanks Rich, makes sense now. Keep us updated on what you find as you test.

Mike

I don't understand if the router isn't connected to the internet

You do not have to be connected to the internet to run trains. You are simply using the routers WiFi and not the multiple WTIU”s WiFi.