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@FRENCHTRAINS Thanks for showing us your French Hornby No2 Locos. They are very special locos indeed. All the best in finding the green NORD loco - I hope you find one soon!

Thanks @Jamie Thompson,  with some time and luck all is possible.... But finding one of those Ron Fox would be great also, I have never seen one in France and they could be a perfect match with Hornby... you have a nice selection of those rare locos.

Very best, Daniel

Jamie / Daniel :  Thank you both so much for the information on the HRCA and HRCAA I am currently trying to join at least one of them.  I really appreciate your taking the time to give me the information.   Also, Daniel, what great std gauge sets, really liked Std Gauge (or Wide Gauge as our AF friends would say) but I simply ran out of space to show or operate them except occasionally at Christmas around the tree.  I enjoy what I have but have not tried to add to the collection at all in recent years.  OOOPs I forgot a Lionel 211 flat car that my brother found for me at an Ohio train show. This thing, standard gauge from 1926-27, is my only "series 200" car and is about a foot long.  The rest of my Lionel SG is 800 series cars and somewhat smaller.   !  I can't imagine how large a full set of these cars would be, but I would have to set them up in the back yard (or garden).

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Jamie I am really enjoying your pictures of your clockwork layout.  Thanks for posting.  I have a small "collection" of Hornby both the UK Hornby and the French Hornby and really like what you are doing for your layout.  As  a clockwork layout, I have thought some about doing something similar,  a small layout where I could run the Hornby and I have some Distler clockwork as well as some from American Flyer and Marx.  Who knows, maybe some day.

Best regards to all

Don

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Well just to conclude my Saturday afternoon of posting, how about some "HAFNER"....its been awhile since I posted any of these so here are two tankers just to finish up today...(or say..."tanks a lot!" Oh boy is that bad!).

The first is what I believe to be the older and more common,  the silver, black, & red Hafner 1010 tanker.  Hafner often numbered his cars and engines 1010 because (it is said) that was the address of the factory on the street in Chicago.  Who knows.  He did bring out the 1010 loco in 1938 and produced it up through the late 40's although Hafner products are very hard to date.  So this car could have been used to accompany any freight set from 1938 on to about 1949-1950.

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Around 1950 Hafner changed the lithography on the engines and cars and produced the 2000 series engine.  There is a video on the internet claiming to show a "1950 Hafner Freight Set" in operation and the consist contains this orange car.  I believe that this car in this new color was made from 1950-51 up until Hafner sold out to Wyandotte toys in 1956.  In fact it may indeed have been used for a short time after, because Wyandotte just used up old stock that they acquired in the sale until it ran out.  However these post sale cars are usually stamped Wyandotte - Hafner and this car carries no such markings.  So it is likely to have been made 1950-1951 up until about 1956.

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You will note that both cars have what appear to be two black holes to the left and right of the ladder about 3 rungs down from the dome.  These are not physical holes but just circles or big dots in the lithography.  Candidly I have no idea what they are supposed to represent and they appear on both cars in the same place.  Mystery for sure.  

Well anyway, just thought these guys were fun to post, hope you like them.  If anyone has any further data on these cars please let me know.  I have looked at the various web sites, especially Western Division TCA and they have some nice pictures but few dates.

Regards, Don

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@Jim Z posted:

imageChris,

I love the cover photo of the 840 power station.

i think it is the most spectacular of the Lionel pre war structures.

My power station is by T Reproductions. I did not use the platform in order to fit it into a tight space.

Jim Z





Chris L and Jim Z , here is my 840 entry. With all the other structure colors in the 'Industry area' on my Standard Gauge Upstairs Layout, I'm glad I went with the Red/White version. Mine is by MTH.

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Way back - probably around 1980 or so, a TCA member published an article in the Quarterly about small American Flyer Stations.  I had just become interested in the stations and the information provided was a welcome addition to my then meager store of knowledge concerning the stations.

  The author provided pictures of the various stations along with their names.  One of the pictures was of the small Glen Ellyn station which, as we know today, was Hafner and not American Flyer.  At the fall York meet for the same year I found a complete "American Flyer" station set with the Glen Ellyn station.  Other than a rubber stamped 1100 on the box side there was no other identification. 

  It was only after the passage of several years and my accumulation of additional knowledge about American Flyer stations that I came to realize the author had made a mistake with regards to the Glen Ellyn station.  This wasn't a problem. Rather it was fun to discover I had something different and something which, for me, has proven to be unique in that I've never seen another one of these sets (now watch - half of the posters to this thread will come back with pictures of mountains of these sets in their respective collections ).

#1100 Hafner Station Set

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Box contents - note the semaphore on the straight post is part of the station and is held in place by a hole in the station roof

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Hafner station with semaphore attached

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Robert:  THANK YOU for posting the Hafner 1100 Station Set...not only is it beautiful to see but it has helped me in what you will think an unusual way.  I have the crossing gate and the "Danger" cross buck and have for years wondered who made them (I can't recall how I got them but likely just picked them up "under the table" at some train show ) but now due to your posting I can identify them as Hafner!!.  Thanks !

Don

Fatman, based on what I've seen it looks like Hafner changed the colors of the litho brick and stone sides, roof enamel color, and perhaps even base colors (I say perhaps because I have seen some green bases but I couldn't decide if they were original or repaints). However, I haven't seen anything that would suggest a timeline for these changes. 

To your station - I have one like it too - less the semaphore.  It is obvious from the wear marks on the extreme right hand side of the station that it did have a semaphore at one time but it was long gone by the time I found it.

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Cannot remember if I shared pic(s) recently of the still-a-work-in-progress American Flyer O Gauge area (I lovingly refer to it as American Flyer Litho-Land) on the new layout... please forgive me if I'm being redundant. A few new items have been added recently.

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Those are some very, very nice buildings and accessories- it looks like AF Litho-Land will turn out great!

Your last picture piqued my interest. Do you know who made the five figures in the green box? Also- what size are they, roughly? If I recall correctly, it wasnโ€™t until Postwar that Gilbert AF had Comet Metal Products/Authenticast Products figures for them that were marketed as American Flyer

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And a unknown indicator for Australia

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With Adelaide, Mildura, Albury, Bendigo, Frankston, Geelong, Flinders St

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Arne

That piece is charming. Looks like it's made from an Altoid tin. Could even be homemade?

Edit: Further reading down the thread brought me to Jamie's description. I guess I was partially right in that it is from a repurposed tin.

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I guess I haven't been on the Forum much because I had about 4 pages to catch up on. Beautiful stuff all around- what a treat to see. Thanks everyone for your great photos and videos.

I have to agree with everyone though that the cake goes to JMK's Leipzig station and the entire scene he has created around it. That was just WOW!

Fatman:  What fabulous engines.  The lithography is spectacular...I note the difference between the "splasher" design of the Royal Scot vs the more common (in the US) horizontal walkway design of the Britannia.

Steve Eastman - first of all...you are having a "Train Show" !  There has not been one of those in Texas since last January. Shows cancelled as far away as La in our TCA division.  Next, from your discussion I am assuming that the houses are painted metal, is that correct?  I was struck at the similarity to the Plasticville "Cape Cod" design even the color schemes seem similar, i know that the red/white and blue/white scheme was offered in plasticville not sure of the green.  By the way to  help in your dating, I agree with the 1950's.  These "Cape Cod" houses were built by the hundreds specifically for returning veterans at the close of WWII / Korean war (one of which was my parents one and only owned house from 1953 - 1978 and the site of my first layout!).

Me - I have scored a pair of 529 Pullmans, 1926-1932, in the olive green / green roof livery I will post pictures when they arrive. I do have an appropriate 252 loco to go with them but I am still looking for the 530 observation.

Don

Fatman:  What fabulous engines.  The lithography is spectacular...I note the difference between the "splasher" design of the Royal Scot vs the more common (in the US) horizontal walkway design of the Britannia.

Steve Eastman - first of all...you are having a "Train Show" !  There has not been one of those in Texas since last January. Shows cancelled as far away as La in our TCA division.  Next, from your discussion I am assuming that the houses are painted metal, is that correct?  I was struck at the similarity to the Plasticville "Cape Cod" design even the color schemes seem similar, i know that the red/white and blue/white scheme was offered in plasticville not sure of the green.  By the way to  help in your dating, I agree with the 1950's.  These "Cape Cod" houses were built by the hundreds specifically for returning veterans at the close of WWII / Korean war (one of which was my parents one and only owned house from 1953 - 1978 and the site of my first layout!).

Me - I have scored a pair of 529 Pullmans, 1926-1932, in the olive green / green roof livery I will post pictures when they arrive. I do have an appropriate 252 loco to go with them but I am still looking for the 530 observation.

Don

Don, the houses are painted steel with plastic doors and windows. Similar in size to Plasticville.

Steve

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