Hi I am interested in the Imperial engine at SideTrack. How did you find it?? Thanks Dave
AMCDave posted:I see Athearn announced a HO #4141 new run......who's first in O???
Notice it also has an ETA of December 2019...
I would expect that date would also be the earliest availability for Lionel or MTH if they decided right now to rerun 4141.
Rusty
The __bay has two 4141's for sale...your choice...$4500.00 or $2999.00!!!
You also have the good fortune to buy the 2 cars for $850.00
I pulled a WbB 'DASH' loco off the shelf....it's close enough for me so if I want one I'll repaint this unit.....I think I may have paid $100 for her used. That and $20 paint and my own decals.....about my comfort level........NOT $4500!!!!
I told my wife last night about the prices on the *bay. She said as with the Beanie Babies and Cabbage Patch Kids and the like, It's supply and demand for this particular time and people can ask what ever they want. My son told me a lot of years back about the baseball cards he had and what they were worth. I told him "They're only worth what people are willing to pay".
I noticed that no one was standing on the back platform of the observation car as the train passed. I guess this was due to security concerns?
Rockyroad posted:The __bay has two 4141's for sale...your choice...$4500.00 or $2999.00!!!
You also have the good fortune to buy the 2 cars for $850.00
Within 6 months the price will fall back to earth.
Rusty
Moving towards public display in Omaha today.
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Now Kato has a N scale #4141 coming......so O can't be far behind.
Yeah, I noticed that price as well on the bay for Lionel's 4141. I was fortunate that I ordered Lionel's 6-83019 UP Excursion Passenger 2-pack which included the "Flag Car" when it was available. Living in UP land it was just a something I just had to have - I love it!.
https://www.up.com/media/media_kit/bush41/index.htm Here is a link I found interesting about the "Funeral Train Consist"
cerbyg posted:By the time they could design, manufacture, ship and deliver a set like this, the nostalgia would be gone....especially at the price they would charge.
BTW...I have both the Lionel 4141 engine and the matching caboose MIB. I ordered it when it was first introduced. At the time, I wasn't sure why I bought it. But now I know.
I was able to grab the Lionel caboose (MTH didn't release one in Premier) off eBay a couple of years ago (none of the Heritage cabooses are prototypical, but you gotta love 'em). I'm glad I got it as I haven't seen one for sale since and given the prices a couple of sellers are asking for 4141 I can only imagine how inflated the caboose price is.
The price people are paying for them is crazy. I bought my lionel for $450 and got the caboose from a forum member for a great price. I'm glad I have them. Athearn and Kato are both re-issuing theirs in HO and N scale respectively and it sounds as tho Lionel will reissue theirs as well. People need to slow their roll.
This would make for a great OGR article if someone re-created President Bush's final train ride on their layout...
Just listed and announced. MTH is reissuing 4141 due sometime 2019.
In O scale? Premier?
Both Premier and Railking
Lyle posted:Just listed and announced. MTH is reissuing 4141 due sometime 2019.
Link? I just went to the site and found no reference. Hopefully, they will release it in two-rail also.
Lyle posted:Just listed and announced. MTH is reissuing 4141 due sometime 2019.
Where can this be found? I checked MTH's site, and I am on their email list and have found no listing. I will ask at my local MTH shop tomorrow.
Mr Muffin announced it.
My local dealer announced at the recent DuPage train show that MTH will re-issue 4141 in both Railking and Premier along with the two cars. He said he spoke directly with the head of sales at MTH.
With so many forum threads about this topic already, I'm just going to pick this one to post so as not to step on the MTH thread. As noted on the Ryan and Dave show last week, Lionel will be releasing a special set to honor 41. We are currently in the final stages of preparing the Volume 1 catalog, and with the new tooling planned for the set, we won't be able to show it until later in 2020. Normally we keep pretty quiet about future releases, but this train has been the most requested I've seen in the past 5 years and being in the Christmas spirit, here's an early Christmas present for you all!
We will re-release 4141 both separate sale and as part of a full set. Powered and non-powered versions are also planned for those who may just want to have this as a show piece. The set will include four cars, three of which will require new or modified tooling: City of Portland (new dining interiors for the dome), Council Bluffs (open doors and interior of course!), Overland (StationSounds diner), and Kenefick (all new business car tooling.) As a special train, this set will include figures in the interior of all cars and special sound recordings for the diner and locomotive. Also available will be additional SD70AH's (9096 as well as two others, 9069 (led the advance train) and 9088 (paired with 1943 on some trips last year) and additional separate sale cars to complement this or the other UP cars released previously and expand your trains.
Too early to give a price or availability date at this time. As mentioned, this has been one of the most requested items in recent memory so we want to take the time to do it right, and do justice to the prototype and of course the esteemed President himself. He deserves nothing less. Thank you to all who have reached out with your suggestions and comments.
On a completely separate note, but knowing that a comment from one of us always sparks a round of questions: we are very busy in the warehouse this week, everyone from Howard on down the line, working to get as much out to you all in time for Christmas as possible. We are still receiving 3 to 5 inbound containers daily and working to turn shipments as fast as possible. There are too many items to list here, but all of the remaining LEGACY diesels and LionChief Plus NW2s, the 1930 Broadway Limited and Salad Bowl Express sets, oodles of 18" passenger cars, train sets and more are all expected to be out the door before Christmas. The Moguls have returned from the factory. Customer Service will be checking each one and then sending them back to the original owners - they will likely return to you shortly after the new year.
Unfortunately, that's all the update I have time for as there are Broadway Limited sets in the warehouse awaiting and lunch time is over. Thank you all for making 2018 a fantastic year for us here at Lionel. We are already looking forward to what next year has in store (I've seen the catalog - there's some pretty cool stuff in there!!!) and wish you all a safe, happy, train-filled Merry Christmas!
Conrail6358 posted:With so many forum threads about this topic already, I'm just going to pick this one to post so as not to step on the MTH thread. As noted on the Ryan and Dave show last week, Lionel will be releasing a special set to honor 41. We are currently in the final stages of preparing the Volume 1 catalog, and with the new tooling planned for the set, we won't be able to show it until later in 2020. Normally we keep pretty quiet about future releases, but this train has been the most requested I've seen in the past 5 years and being in the Christmas spirit, here's an early Christmas present for you all!
We will re-release 4141 both separate sale and as part of a full set. Powered and non-powered versions are also planned for those who may just want to have this as a show piece. The set will include four cars, three of which will require new or modified tooling: City of Portland (new dining interiors for the dome), Council Bluffs (open doors and interior of course!), Overland (StationSounds diner), and Kenefick (all new business car tooling.) As a special train, this set will include figures in the interior of all cars and special sound recordings for the diner and locomotive. Also available will be additional SD70AH's (9096 as well as two others, 9069 (led the advance train) and 9088 (paired with 1943 on some trips last year) and additional separate sale cars to complement this or the other UP cars released previously and expand your trains.
Too early to give a price or availability date at this time. As mentioned, this has been one of the most requested items in recent memory so we want to take the time to do it right, and do justice to the prototype and of course the esteemed President himself. He deserves nothing less. Thank you to all who have reached out with your suggestions and comments.
On a completely separate note, but knowing that a comment from one of us always sparks a round of questions: we are very busy in the warehouse this week, everyone from Howard on down the line, working to get as much out to you all in time for Christmas as possible. We are still receiving 3 to 5 inbound containers daily and working to turn shipments as fast as possible. There are too many items to list here, but all of the remaining LEGACY diesels and LionChief Plus NW2s, the 1930 Broadway Limited and Salad Bowl Express sets, oodles of 18" passenger cars, train sets and more are all expected to be out the door before Christmas. The Moguls have returned from the factory. Customer Service will be checking each one and then sending them back to the original owners - they will likely return to you shortly after the new year.
Unfortunately, that's all the update I have time for as there are Broadway Limited sets in the warehouse awaiting and lunch time is over. Thank you all for making 2018 a fantastic year for us here at Lionel. We are already looking forward to what next year has in store (I've seen the catalog - there's some pretty cool stuff in there!!!) and wish you all a safe, happy, train-filled Merry Christmas!
Fabulous news! Thank you Ryan (and the whole Lionel team) for listening to the customers. This will surely make tons of people happy. I may pick up a 4141 once it arrives. Until then, I'm excited to see the next catalog, you have my hopes up!
@Conrail6358 would love to see the non powered units be legacy equipped.
Maxrailroad posted:Fabulous news! Thank you Ryan (and the whole Lionel team) for listening to the customers. This will surely make tons of people happy. I may pick up a 4141 once it arrives. Until then, I'm excited to see the next catalog, you have my hopes up!
While it's great Lionel is listening to you guys, did you happen to notice this line:
"We are currently in the final stages of preparing the Volume 1 catalog, and with the new tooling planned for the set, we won't be able to show it until later in 2020."
As I understand the line, be prepared to snuggle down for a 2 year wait, minimum.
Rusty
A set without the baggage car???
rdunniii posted:A set without the baggage car???
The set has a baggage car. UP’s baggage is called “Council Bluffs”. Ryan noted in his post the car will have a detailed interior and windows instead of baggage doors on one side
I'm not asking this to tick people off or sound funny, but will a O scale casket come with that passenger car, given it's a set for the funeral train?
Someone I work with who's not into model trains but loved Bush 41 as a President, was asking me yesterday, as he'd found notes on the models of UP 4141 in a Google search...
TURBGINE, MTH just sent out the news letter with that announcement.
Although I wish I had a layout - I don't. Maybe someday I will but for now I'm just a an autograph collector and Presidential buff. I would like to buy one of the soon to be produced reissues of teh Bush 4141. Which is a better display unit? The Lionel or the MTH? I imagine that Lionel is preferable because of the history associated with it. Which unit has better detail and looks more realistic? If anyone wants to see my collection - please look at TheKaplanCollection.com
When it comes to a display standing out and catching attention, I would go with G scale in a lighted display case with a mirrored back.
MTH #70-2133-1 SD70ACe Engine - George Bush #4141
For display purposes the OMI version would be the best. But there are only about 10 of those and I would imagine they are not going to be found in any public market for the foreseeable time.
A frined of mine has the OMI version and ive been working on him for years to let it go
I would be interested. Can someone prove few more info on this brass model
Conrail6358 posted:With so many forum threads about this topic already, I'm just going to pick this one to post so as not to step on the MTH thread. As noted on the Ryan and Dave show last week, Lionel will be releasing a special set to honor 41. We are currently in the final stages of preparing the Volume 1 catalog, and with the new tooling planned for the set, we won't be able to show it until later in 2020. Normally we keep pretty quiet about future releases, but this train has been the most requested I've seen in the past 5 years and being in the Christmas spirit, here's an early Christmas present for you all!
We will re-release 4141 both separate sale and as part of a full set. Powered and non-powered versions are also planned for those who may just want to have this as a show piece. The set will include four cars, three of which will require new or modified tooling: City of Portland (new dining interiors for the dome), Council Bluffs (open doors and interior of course!), Overland (StationSounds diner), and Kenefick (all new business car tooling.) As a special train, this set will include figures in the interior of all cars and special sound recordings for the diner and locomotive. Also available will be additional SD70AH's (9096 as well as two others, 9069 (led the advance train) and 9088 (paired with 1943 on some trips last year) and additional separate sale cars to complement this or the other UP cars released previously and expand your trains.
Too early to give a price or availability date at this time. As mentioned, this has been one of the most requested items in recent memory so we want to take the time to do it right, and do justice to the prototype and of course the esteemed President himself. He deserves nothing less. Thank you to all who have reached out with your suggestions and comments.
On a completely separate note, but knowing that a comment from one of us always sparks a round of questions: we are very busy in the warehouse this week, everyone from Howard on down the line, working to get as much out to you all in time for Christmas as possible. We are still receiving 3 to 5 inbound containers daily and working to turn shipments as fast as possible. There are too many items to list here, but all of the remaining LEGACY diesels and LionChief Plus NW2s, the 1930 Broadway Limited and Salad Bowl Express sets, oodles of 18" passenger cars, train sets and more are all expected to be out the door before Christmas. The Moguls have returned from the factory. Customer Service will be checking each one and then sending them back to the original owners - they will likely return to you shortly after the new year.
Unfortunately, that's all the update I have time for as there are Broadway Limited sets in the warehouse awaiting and lunch time is over. Thank you all for making 2018 a fantastic year for us here at Lionel. We are already looking forward to what next year has in store (I've seen the catalog - there's some pretty cool stuff in there!!!) and wish you all a safe, happy, train-filled Merry Christmas!
When will we be able to start putting in pre orders for this?
