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Viability of vintage CHAMP/Champion and Nimco decals?

FM Former Member

I have a large collection of vintage CHAMP, Champion and NIMCO decals - however, they were stored for decades in a not-so-dry basement. The never got wet - but the backing appears to taken mildew or discoloration. When I wet them - they slide off as they should, and it looks like the discoloration stays mostly on the paper - not really on the decal - but I think the adhesive might be slightly cloudy. Not sure how clear they should really be. It surely doesn't seem obvious on the window I stuck one on - and of course, a train isnt transparent.

I am prepping these for sale on an auction site - just wondering if its worth it - or will they be seen as defective? A common problem?

You'd think some of the weatherizers would want them.

Mods - hope this post doesn't violate anything..

 

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dkdkrddkdkrdOGR Forum Member

If you're forthright in disclosing the above experience when you offer these for sale, I believe you could find lots of buyers.  Sure, there's a risk, but you've done more homework to help the buyers in their decision than many sellers.  GOOD JOB!

Re the adhesive cloudiness......IMHO the older generation decals had an inferior adhesive that exhibited this cloudiness.  I've read several articles in modeling publications/magazines that talk about this film adhesive.  Most of the articles encourage washing the adhesive from the film after it's released from the paper backing.  Then they will float the cleaned decal onto a 'puddle' of, say, Micro Set fluid at the decal location on the model.  If there's not a lot of surface contours for the film to snuggle into, some modeling 'experts' suggest simply floating the cleaned film into a small 'puddle' of, say, Future liquid wax.....basically a clear gloss acrylic finish.I know that's oversimplifying the pro processes, but if the decal film is intact after separation from the backing paper, it's certainly of value!  

IMHO, of course....

KD

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N NortonOGR Forum Member

My take, if you can slide them off in one piece they are good. I am averaging about 50% on old Champ decals. The bad ones disintegrate as soon as put them in water. I have had mixed success with Microscale liquid decal film. I don't know if it has to do with just the age of the decal or if Champ at some point changed the material.

Pete

 

A AMCDaveOGR Forum Member

As stated above.....it can vary greatly decal to decal. If you sell them just make sure buyer is aware they are 'vintage' decals of unknown condition.  

The issue I see is if you take time to list each of the 200 individually you may sell 20% of them and you will make a profit that would not cover your time.....sell them as a lot IMHO.

I've looked at producing model RR decals....do not see a large enough market.  

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