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Originally Posted by Number 90:
Originally Posted by D500:

Thee is a recurring thread in this thread that I find perplexing. Comments to the effect

of "bathe, wear deodorant, clean clothes" have appeared frequently.

 

Is this a frequent, real problem, or just a running joke? 

It's a problem with a minority of rail fans and model railroaders.  At a train show or a railman event there will always be one or two. And one or two is all it takes to be annoying.

Gotta disagree with you. I've been in a NRHS member since I was 14 and regularly have attend model RR shows since I was a little kid. You will encounter a higher percentage of hygenically challenged people in this hobby than in a general population.

My wife said it best as to why she doesn't like going to train shows or gun shows, when she's said that people leer at her too much (and sometimes get grabby) at gun shows, but at train shows, the attendees are "just too stinky!"

Kudos to mlavender & pappy!!!   I can't discern whether the original post(r) is putting us on, or shouldn't be without the caretaker.

     If you are poor...well then fine just wear the cleanest clothes you feel like wearing.

The polar opposite is a joke to me because I wonder if they are advertising that they want to be fleeced?

   And the stories of crop dusting/ poor hygiene are indeed a sad commentary....it turns people away from attending train shows.......my wife & daughter feel the same as P-51's. Really no excuse and very vulgar. At the last York, the moron that was about to get my money obviously fired one off without a care. That was a last straw, and I walked away! Think he had a medical problem?  I don't think so, and I live and take good care of my IBS problem.

 

I dunno....  The more I think about the OP's posit, the more I'm inclined to suggest it's time to swing ye olde fashion pendulum the other way.

 

FI:....

 

 

maletails

femaletails

 

Imagine the impact at York!!!???  Throw in a few wandering waitpersons offering scrapple, Yuengling,  funnel cakes, and kosher hot dogs, all serenaded by a string quartet and piano player between 'follow-da-rules!' announcements.....besides a bellyache and a headache, you're bound to have a....different....experience.

 

Yep, formal tails at a train meet....a definite step up in a progressive world!

 

KD

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Originally Posted by K.C Jones:
A few helpful suggestions  to help deal with soiled air….



Happy New Year, Everyone…

K.C.

By George, I think he's got it! You have it right here, problem solved. They need to pass out hand fans at the door upon entry to the shows. Or I suppose they could sell them at the door and you could purchase or pass on them at your own risk.

Well, I detoured on my way home from a family gathering some years ago wearing

a suit and tie, to "hit" a train show, and felt uncomfortable, but almost always wear

the usual casual clothes I wear in retirement.  As a longtime attendee of car swap

meets as well, where drunks and hungovers are not unknown, I would be less surprised to find unpleasant aromas.  My nose must be dead, for I can't recall one of the zillions of train shows I have been to, where it was particularly aromatic, but maybe

I have tunnel vision in "the hunt".  Maybe women get pawed in gun shows because of

the strict rules, to bring anything in unloaded, or otherwise I'd think those perps should be wearing their Kevlar.

Unless you're a vendor trying to attract buyers, I wouldn't worry that much   about wardrobe or grooming. A buyer paying cash can thumb his or her nose at the Fashion Police with impunity at most train shows.
 
Some people dress in railroad gear or in railfan tees, shirts, or windbreakers when they go to train shows, some don't. If you enjoy dressing up in railfan togs, do it; if you choose ordinary street clothing, don't let it stop you from entering and shopping.
 
Originally Posted by Bnsftrains:
Ok here's the dilemma, I'm a newbie at the train shows and when I was at the Albany one I wasn't dressed decent enough I feel.  I had a white shirt with a steam engine on it that was old and the lettering was coming off , that doesn't include the coffee stain I got on the way in while trying to park.  I also had gray sweat pants and a red hat on.  Now this may sound dumb but I noticed some people in dressier and more decent looking clothes then me and felt not welcomed.  So do you dress in your railroad gear or comfortable ware?  Just trying to plan ahead for these shows that are coming up.  Is it also appropriate to wear a back pack or fanny pack ? Which I saw many have. Cheers

 

So do you dress in your railroad gear or comfortable ware? 

Yes.  These do not need to be mutually exclusive.

 

I've been behind many a table.  The following would be the uniform I have seen many others wear:

  1. Comfortable shoes.
  2. Denim shirt or Lionel shirt or railroad roadname/logo T Shirts (e.g., PRR).
  3. Blue jeans or engineers overalls.

Here are some optional items:

  1. Navy blue C&O windbreaker, with UP, NKP, PRR, etc. patches sewn on.
  2. Navy blue Elks windbreaker.  Or Teamsters.  Or IBEW.  Etc.
  3. NFL gear.  (Fall York).
  4. MLB gear.  (Spring York)

Any of those, in clean condition, would make the wearer look like "a regular guy".

 

This pic below was taken last year at the Big E.  

 

BigE

 

 

The 6'6" guy next to me is my college roommate, currently a Chemistry professor at our alma mater.  I personally wore:

  • Plaid flannel shirt.  Ironed.
  • Khakis.  
  • Running shoes.  
  • Deodorant.
  • A Lionel-logo thong.  (Kidding.)
  • A Smile.

Your mileage may vary,

 

SJS

 

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Originally Posted by GCRailways:
Originally Posted by RAL:

       
When people dress like slobs, it has a subtle and degrading impact on society.  To illustrate this decline in our culture, and because this is a train-related forum, check for photos of how people dressed during the postwar period (I think some of our old NY forum photos are a good example) to how they dress today.  


       


Believe it or not, I actually wish early/mid 20th Century attire was more common.  I try to look relatively decent (is this the word of the month?) regardless of where I go, because not only is it respectful to myself and those around me, I also feel better.

In my younger days my grandma and grandpa put me through the same routine, that was as follows. Take a bath with Tide laundry soap. Always a ironed crisply starched white shirt with ironed blue jeans. Lastly, freshly polished black leather shoes. This was in an era when your clothing reflected your manners and upbringing. Thank you, grandma and grandpa.

 

"Pappy" 

Originally Posted by p51:
Gotta disagree with you. I've been in a NRHS member since I was 14 and regularly have attend model RR shows since I was a little kid. You will encounter a higher percentage of hygenically challenged people in this hobby than in a general population.

My wife said it best as to why she doesn't like going to train shows or gun shows, when she's said that people leer at her too much (and sometimes get grabby) at gun shows, but at train shows, the attendees are "just too stinky!"

My Lord, in what part of the country do you live?  I've been attending gun shows for twenty years, and my attractive wife has never found that "people leer at her too much and sometimes get grabby!"  I'd certainly have something to say to the offender if it ever happened, but it never has.

 

As for train shows, well, there are only two per year in my area.  But although there are always a couple of swine in every barnyard, their numbers are no greater than in any public special-interest gathering, such as antique and collectible shows.

 

Please let us know where these shows are, so we can all avoid them.

 

 

Originally Posted by Balshis:
Originally Posted by p51:
Gotta disagree with you. I've been in a NRHS member since I was 14 and regularly have attend model RR shows since I was a little kid. You will encounter a higher percentage of hygenically challenged people in this hobby than in a general population.

My wife said it best as to why she doesn't like going to train shows or gun shows, when she's said that people leer at her too much (and sometimes get grabby) at gun shows, but at train shows, the attendees are "just too stinky!"

My Lord, in what part of the country do you live?  I've been attending gun shows for twenty years, and my attractive wife has never found that "people leer at her too much and sometimes get grabby!"  I'd certainly have something to say to the offender if it ever happened, but it never has.

 

As for train shows, well, there are only two per year in my area.  But although there are always a couple of swine in every barnyard, their numbers are no greater than in any public special-interest gathering, such as antique and collectible shows.

 

Please let us know where these shows are, so we can all avoid them.

 

The gun shows are in Washington state, have never gone to a show with her elsewhere and never will now. She never told it was happening until after she said she'd never go to another one and explained why. When I asked why that was the first I was hearing about that, she said that she knew I'd throw down on anyone who did that and didn't want to see me seriously injure someone or get carted off by the cops for doing so. It still steams me to know people got away with it.

As for the train shows, I've been to them pretty much in every region of the country at one time or another and they ALL have had the soap-scared folks in them.

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