Which Mallet

Everything gets redone over time. They just have to wait long enough to recreate the demand.

Scott Smith

Yes Scott that's probably right.  I traded with CSam a scale class A for a lionmaster  version a couple of years ago.  My layout was too small to run O-72, butnow I have moved and have an O-72 loop.

 

Doug

I believe the C&O version is more "correct", and the N&W version is not really a locomotive that the N&W had, if that matters.

It really dosen't matterthat much to me but, I do believe N&W had mallets.

 

Doug

Maybe this will help I think the C&O has white painted tires, I think I prefer the plain metallic look of the N&W, but its a win win either way.

Thanks RickO!  That is nice (also greatlayout) I would love to hear the C&O version to compare.  I just looked up the N&W mallets and it looks like they had 190 of them.

 

Both would be nice but I want to get the Lima berk.

 

Doug

I'm always up for a compliment, but thats not my mallet or layout, however I'm up for one of those berks too! I believe the sounds are very similar if not identical in all of the mallets.

I believe the C&O version is more "correct", and the N&W version is not really a locomotive that the N&W had, if that matters.

 

Ah, RickO, are you saying that the N & W DID NOT have the Y6? Howse about the Y3?

I assumed he meant they didn't have mallets, but I see that they did, although the Class A's and Y6's were more common.

 

Doug

No N&W indeed had y6's and y3's. When this particular N&W mallet ,(the new legacy one in the video) was announce numerous comments were made that it did not represent an actual 2-6-6-2 that N&W had but rather, the C&O mallet "dressed up" for the N&W. It doesn't really matter to me,I think its a nice loco. It was interesting info when the topic came up months ago and I just pointed it out to Doug in case it had mattered to him and helped him decide.

Heres the original post on this:https://ogrforum.com/d...ent/2415514336526043

Thanks all. They are expensive toys to me as I am not a scale modeler. But it's nice to know if they are examples of real trains.

 

Doug

Ok, I think it will be C&O but now USRA C&O or regular C&O?

 

Doug

Lionel's later C&O mallet is a pretty good representation of a C&O class H-5 from the 30's to the end of service. The as delivered US version is a little off. I believe in this paint scheme the engine had only up front one air pump, an off center smokebox door, and no top mounted number boards.

 

Ken

That Layout looks familiar,

 

I have the Lionel N&W Class A, Y-3,Y-6 , I was hoping  for the Z class  mallet 

 , But Z class didnt have the number boards on it, nor the compressors that are on the front of the C&O boiler  should have been moved to the side of the N&W mallett as well as running board should of stepped up over the compressors and back down.

 

I bought it anyway, thinkin i may eventially modify it, but doubt it. I see now the B&O em1 has the same sounds.

 

 

 

   Here you go just write N&W on the handle with a sharpie . It'll be just as prototypical as the one Lionel sells and this Mallet is cheaper.

David

Pretty much, but hey,

 

Poor old Anatole - you guys don't even capitalize his last name.  Pronounced differently from the wood hammer of the same spelling.

I assumed he meant they didn't have mallets, but I see that they did, although the Class A's and Y6's were more common.

In 1953, N&W had 82 Z-1's on the roster. In 1956, more then 50 of them were still there. In 1953, N&W rostered 43 Class A single expansion Articulateds and 80 Y6 in three classes. There were also 61 Y3's in two classes . Z's seemed to make almost to the end of steam on the N&W but i would think these were probably assigned as shifters in yards or on Mine branches rather than mainline locomotives.

Mal-lay. C'est francais. And Doug, he didn't mean that N&W had no Mallets- just that they never had one that looked like this. It's badge-engineered. Slapping N&W on a C&O engine.

 

"Yes, we have no Mallets. We have no Mallets todayyy".