Typically Sunsets reservations are dependent on both 2 rail and 3 rail support to meet his quotas to produce a model, a limited response on either side or both is the determining factor, just saying.
What about an O scale model of the
B23-7 diesel-electric locomotive
B30-7 diesel-electric locomotive
and the variations.
Andrew
Thankfully it will not be a Santa Fe SD75M or Canadian National SD75I because then I would have to order a pair of them.
Andrew
@jonnyspeed posted:It is comical to me that a nearly 30 year old engine is referred to as "modern". I'm happy for all the people who are excited for big "modern" 6 axle power. I'm not a big "modern" fan so I'll give the wallet a rest on these. With F-units inbound, Geeps soon to come, hopefully FAs/FBs, and SD40-2s as a long shot I already have allocated way too much. Not to mention an unannounced project that I will need at least 4 of.
Well I count my blessing that I’m not into “modern” diesels. I draw the line around the SD40-2s. Perhaps they’d be more do-able if the roster was expanded - more choices. I’ll eventually commit to MP and Frisco but the queue in front is Really Full for me with reservations for GP’s, FA’s, Olympian beckoning, hoping for MP Eagle.
Hmmmm. An unannounced project to come. Great. Sounds like more trouble for me coming down the pike. 😮 I’m safe though if it’s “modern”. 🤣🤣🤣
TrainBub
If I were to order these C44-9W models it would have to be 3-Rail and I would need 2 of them.
Santa Fe is my first choice of railroad.
The Canadian National ones are common on freight trains here right now, so I am not sure if I want that.
The Chicago & North Western markings had a large amount of retroreflective decals that could be put on the model.
Andrew
Falcon Service
Wow! We aare coming up to 2 months after the initial announcement and nothing on the reservation form. Scott M. must really be busy with the GP project!
Scott is busy with a lot of projects. We talked for a while today and you can expect to see an announcement in the future about what we think is a potentially great project. It is a steam locomotive.
The GP7 and GP9 project is taking a LOT of time.
@rheil posted:Scott is busy with a lot of projects. We talked for a while today and you can expect to see an announcement in the future about what we think is a potentially great project. It is a steam locomotive.
The GP7 and GP9 project is taking a LOT of time.
Take your time Scott. I’m reserved on many of the current projects 
. I’ll be in again of course on the diesels. Appreciate the various offerings.
shameless plug for UP Excursion cars and Chicago and Eastern Illinois F3s.
That's my problem with Scott. Every time I wish Sunset would do a project or a second run because I missed the first. He does. That's a problem for my wallet. So far, It has been a very good problem to have.
@prrhorseshoecurve posted:unfortunately Emd 2nd generation popular diesels abound in both two and three rail. I would like to see the not so popular second Generation diesels like
F45/FP45/SDP40F,
SD45-2, SD45X,
GP40X,
GE U28/U30/U33B's
ALCo C636, C415, T6
And how about Really turning heads with a Paducha built GP8/ GP10's!
I definitely agree with you on the EMD full-cab units. As a big Amtrak collector, there's no question that I want models of their short-lived locomotives, and I would be more than happy to get those locomotives you listed, in both Amtrak and Santa Fe.
How about we add the GE P40s/P42s to that build??? Basically a Dash 8/9 streamlined 😂
We need beautiful GE P40/42s from 3rd Rail.
@vash44 posted:Take your time Scott. I’m reserved on many of the current projects
shameless plug for UP Excursion cars and Chicago and Eastern Illinois F3s.
Hmmm. C&EI F3s. That’d be a nice add for a second run. Add MP to that too. No problem with tooling for portholes. Surely if CGW can hit minimums you make the cut, these two should too !!! TrainBub
@rheil posted:Scott is busy with a lot of projects. We talked for a while today and you can expect to see an announcement in the future about what we think is a potentially great project. It is a steam locomotive.
The GP7 and GP9 project is taking a LOT of time.
GPs = LOT of time. I bet !!! Even if only 80% of the roads make the production “cut“, that’s a LOT of details to work thru. The reward Should Be a Very Large Run.
This is possible because of the Tremendous diversity of road options !!!! Bravo !!! With that approach you capture buyers from all regions. Popular Diesels Allows this even if you only include original ownership. Next new diesel announcement With large Very diverse geographic Coverage ? RS or some switcher ???
New steam Project - always welcome.
SW1s
@SANTIAGOP23 posted:SW1s
Would work for me !!!
@SANTIAGOP23 posted:SW1s
Checked Wikipedia for original owners. Lots of “meaningful “ road name. Definitely Makes it a candidate for another Large offering. But will people be willing to spend $ for a small diesel ??? That will probably be the key. IMHO.
Straying off Dash topic. Sorry folks.
@TrainBub posted:.... But will people be willing to spend $ for a small diesel ???
For people like myself with small 3-rail layouts, small scale-sized transition-era locomotives, such as the SW-1, are perfect. With the closure of MTH, they may also present a market opportunity for Sunset/3rd Rail by virtue of lower price and higher sales. I have a GP-7 on order but won't be a buyer for a GE Dash-9, although I think it will sell well. I would order an SW-1.
MELGAR
@TrainBub posted:GPs = LOT of time. I bet !!! Even if only 80% of the roads make the production “cut“, that’s a LOT of details to work thru. The reward Should Be a Very Large Run.
This is possible because of the Tremendous diversity of road options !!!! Bravo !!! With that approach you capture buyers from all regions. Popular Diesels Allows this even if you only include original ownership. Next new diesel announcement With large Very diverse geographic Coverage ? RS or some switcher ???New steam Project - always welcome.
From my in head fuzzy new math, a little over 90% of the road names made the cut. Some were consolidated when orders were low in both GP9 and GP7 versions of the same road but together were enough to make the road name go forward.
Next diesel announcement? There are few options bouncing around.
I have an NDA on the steam locomotive. 
@GG1 4877 posted:From my in head fuzzy new math, a little over 90% of the road names made the cut. Some were consolidated when orders were low in both GP9 and GP7 versions of the same road but together were enough to make the road name go forward.
Next diesel announcement? There are few options bouncing around.
I have an NDA on the steam locomotive.
Well I hope the next diesel announcement is another with a Large Diverse geographic Base. It sure will make a LOT of people Happy !!!!
Welllll ...on the other hand, too much of a good thing gets expensive and difficult for many of us to manage / budget. 🤣 Odds are that the steam Project is some eastern road that I’m not interested in So no bother. Gives me a breather to manage reservations.
I have always preferred EMD locos even Alcos to GE stuff. Guess I'll miss the GEs. I would like an SD24 as well as my favorite Milwaukee SDL39, please.
Dick
While waiting for my GP9 it will be interesting to see what is coming down the pike from 3rd Rail. I do not anticipate any Pennsy steam. A steamer on the roster of the P&WV would be extremely remote I think,but something that would be interesting to me.
Norm
The British Columbia Railway and Canadian National did have a distinct version of the cabin on their first orders.
If you are going to make something distinct, it has to include all of the variations.
Scott,
The graphics on modern DASH 9 locomotives have a large amount on Retro-Reflective decals on them. An O scale model must have these retro-reflective decals duplicated.
Andrew
@MELGAR posted:For people like myself with small 3-rail layouts, small scale-sized transition-era locomotives, such as the SW-1, are perfect. With the closure of MTH, they may also present a market opportunity for Sunset/3rd Rail by virtue of lower price and higher sales. I have a GP-7 on order but won't be a buyer for a GE Dash-9, although I think it will sell well. I would order an SW-1.
MELGAR
I also appreciate necessities for “ small” layouts. Mine is 8x12 (no basement). I’m sure we’d have fixed pilots as usual but I hope small engine also means smaller than O54 Turnouts and curves would be possible. MTHs departure from the business Should push at least some business to Scott. Yes, hopeful higher volumes can help Scott negotiate better prices. The price “creep” is getting a bit tough to manage.
@Norm posted:While waiting for my GP9 it will be interesting to see what is coming down the pike from 3rd Rail. I do not anticipate any Pennsy steam.
Norm
Well if us SPF's push Scott for a USRA 2-10-2 and/or a rebuilt N2sa or a PRR 2-8-8-0, or a PRR/N&W K3 4-6-2, We might be able to squeeze out one more unique PRR STEAM locomotive...or two!
@sdmann posted:A long time ago...
We brought out a Brass GE 9-44CW Diesel in the late 1990s. Our first diesel in 3 Rail. It's been over 20 years. I think it's time to do the 2.0 Dash 9. This time with ABS body, Brass Details, ERR Cruise, Railsounds, Remote Couplers, ESU DCC / LOK Sound in 2 Rail, Fixed Pilots, Full Cab Interior and our Horizontal Drive with all axles powered. Look for an announcement in the coming days.
Scott Mann
(Emphasis added).
Scott,
Any update (on the Dash 9, not all this other off-topic stuff),or will we be seeing the announcement soon?
Thanks,
RM
When is the announcement coming.
Patience folks, it has only been six weeks since this thread was started.
Athearn just announced a run of DASH 9 locomotives in HO scale.
If this O scale production run has all the cab variations as the HO scale production run, it would be quite a change from what has been made in O scale before.
Andrew
Geez, 6 weeks already. Sorry. Had a week off the computer due to my Sciatica, but I am back, will put these up this weekend, along with some other great ideas.
Been focusing on getting the GP79 project into tooling. Lots of last minute corrections, analysis of what roads we can make etc. It's all good. I am glad you guys are excited and anxious for these projects. It's what makes them happen. Cheers.
Scott,
Time flies, doesn’t it? Thanks so much for the update. I do hope this project takes off. I hope you’re feeling better. Be well.
RM
@sdmann posted:Geez, 6 weeks already. Sorry. Had a week off the computer due to my Sciatica, but I am back, will put these up this weekend, along with some other great ideas.
Been focusing on getting the GP79 project into tooling. Lots of last minute corrections, analysis of what roads we can make etc. It's all good. I am glad you guys are excited and anxious for these projects. It's what makes them happen. Cheers.
Glad you are feeling better. Do what is necessary to keep your health. And keeping you immune system in top shape is Critical these days.
I’m sure there will be a lot of “trainiacs” watching for your web updates this weekend. We all hope for that new offering that we will want.
And yes - definitely excited that the GPs are heading into production. It has to be the most diverse “O” Gauge offering anyone has ever done !!!!
Cheers
TrainBub
@sdmann posted:Geez, 6 weeks already. Sorry. Had a week off the computer due to my Sciatica, but I am back, will put these up this weekend, along with some other great ideas.
Been focusing on getting the GP79 project into tooling. Lots of last minute corrections, analysis of what roads we can make etc. It's all good. I am glad you guys are excited and anxious for these projects. It's what makes them happen. Cheers.
If you could figure out how to build a small lot of the greatest loco ever made by EMD, I would save all my pennies and dimes for two, drum rollllllllllll, Milwaukee's SDL39, please.
By the way, I got to have the Corona virus in late April, just a mild case so I wish you good health.
Dick
Any chance of having ac4400s produced along with the dash-9s. I primarily model cp and they only bought ac4400s.
No announcement yet. Still waiting to see what is going to happen.
@2012ford posted:No announcement yet. Still waiting to see what is going to happen.
“A watched pot won’t boil” or something like that. Scott said he’s going to do it. I believe him. The path to fruition (delivery) takes time. Even when it is finally announced, its going to take At Least a year before we see it.
Think positive !!! I bet we see some info “soon”.
TrainBub
Small steam, large steam, small diesel, large diesel, to the builder they are all the same. It's probably $150K+ nowadays before the builder is interested. So, he'll make you one SDL39, for $150K. Two for $75K each.
While Dash 9s are too old for me I do hope this project gets good traction (no pun intended).
I'd really like it if the Chargers or Sprinters for the Amfleets or the Viewliner IIs would get come traction but alas, no. Or ES/ET44s. Or the Tier4 SD70s.
@rdunniii posted:Small steam, large steam, small diesel, large diesel, to the builder they are all the same. It's probably $150K+ nowadays before the builder is interested. So, he'll make you one SDL39, for $150K. Two for $75K each.
While Dash 9s are too old for me I do hope this project gets good traction (no pun intended).
I'd really like it if the Chargers or Sprinters for the Amfleets or the Viewliner IIs would get come traction but alas, no. Or ES/ET44s. Or the Tier4 SD70s.
If he offers Chargers, ES/ET44's or Teir4 SD70s I may need to sell a kidney! Those are all 3 on the top of my wishlist.
@vash44 posted:If he offers Chargers, ES/ET44's or Teir4 SD70s I may need to sell a kidney! Those are all 3 on the top of my wishlist.
I'd love es44s, rn I'm stuck with attempting to 2-rail lionel ones if I want any. Tier 4 sd70s are one of favorite locomotives in real life so I could definitely find a use for 1 or 2. Et44s are probably my least favorite locomotive on the rails today, they're like an invasive (and ugly) species on the cn. However, that doesn't mean I couldn't use a few on a layout.
Well the listing is posted. Time to step up.
I like what I see, however they list CSX as an option, however CSX only had Dash9s that were upgrades from Dash8s and thus rode on Dash8 frames with Dash8 trucks.
