Base 3 and Legacy PowerMaster problems

Use a remote, I think that's a pending bug in the CAB3 software.

Same experience. I pushed the Base3 to the side and went back to Cab1.

Thanks for the replies. I will just go back to using the Cab 2 for the PowerMaster until they patch the bug.

Kyle

Lionel told me you can get around this bug by assigning the powermaster as an engine vs a track.

I will give that a try. Thanks.

Has this issue been resolved? I am so disappointed with the lack of instructions on how to assign my  Powermasters to the Base 3. If anyone has a link to the instructions for this please post the link.

@Drawbar Cruson posted:

Has this issue been resolved? I am so disappointed with the lack of instructions on how to assign my  Powermasters to the Base 3. If anyone has a link to the instructions for this please post the link.

It has not been fixed yet. But, as others have stated, you can assign a Powermaster as an engine instead of a train. Unfortunately, that’s a workaround for only one of the bugs. The CAB-3 app still doesn’t let you turn off momentum to achieve responsive control of voltage like you can with any of the physical remotes.

Thanks! I tried the workaround and couldn't get the Powermaster to respond to voltage control. I like to run conventional once in a while 👍

The power master must be reset to run as an engine number for it to work in the CAB3 currently.   But…   I found the last Cab3 update 1.1.47 causes voltage to go to zero every time I adjust the throttle for the power master in the Cab3.  Running conventional with the e-unit active goes to the next mode every time you change the throttle.  I am still using my cab2 with my base3 as a result.

Thank you VHubbard for the info. I can't belive Lionel released the Base 3 without being compatible with the Powermaster! I am running one Powermaster and the TMCC ZW that is like 2 more Powermasters! The Base 3 is nothing like what I anticipated.

I believe this is the same TR ID# assignment issue I have observed with my Base3 connected ZW-L. Here is what I posted elsewhere.

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I can assign TR ID#'s to each ZW-L output (1-4) using my Cab1L as described in the ZW-L instruction manual. Then I control output voltage from each track using my Cab1L. It works perfectly using the Cab1L.

But inside the latest Cab3 (Android) app I cannot configure the TR ID# as you supposedly can if you have a Cab-2 remote (which I don't have).

Is the inability to configure TR ID #'s in the Cab3 a bug that has not yet been fixed? I have not tried assigning an ENG ID# to the ZW-L outputs because I prefer to use TR ID#'s for Track power control.

Thanks,

As mentioned above, I also turn track power on with Cab1L remote with Legacy Powermaster and then run/control my engines with either Cab1L or Cab3 app. Yes the Cab3 app is still very buggy.

I only have the Cab 1 controllers. My plan was to upgrade directly to Base 3 bypassing Base 2. On hold with Lionel now.

I was able to assign engin 5 to my Powermaster, but no luck with the ZW-l. Any fix for that? The red and green lights just blink back and forth.

@VHubbard posted:

The power master must be reset to run as an engine number for it to work in the CAB3 currently.   But…   I found the last Cab3 update 1.1.47 causes voltage to go to zero every time I adjust the throttle for the power master in the Cab3.  Running conventional with the e-unit active goes to the next mode every time you change the throttle.  I am still using my cab2 with my base3 as a result.

This is a new bug that I believe has not been reported to Lionel. There is another related bug that Dave at Lionel is aware concerning the direction button. When you press the direction button the actual voltage drops to zero and bounces back up as it should. However, the displayed speed drops to zero and stays there. Therefore, when you try to increase the voltage, it immediately snaps back to zero, tripping the reversing unit a second time.

I have Base1 connected to the layout, Base1L on the side, and Base 3 on the side.

Does assigning a Legacy PowerMaster work with Base1?  That way I could ease into it.

@Drawbar Cruson posted:

I was able to assign engin 5 to my Powermaster, but no luck with the ZW-l. Any fix for that? The red and green lights just blink back and forth.

I was able to program each of the 4 separate channels on my ZW-L to a different engine number. I used 96, 97, 98 and 99. The ZW-L must be set in command and in 4 channel mode.

Thanks for the idea GregR. I will give that a try. My ZW only has one button on the back for program. I will need to see if I can do that with the first version that came out.

@GregR posted:

I was able to program each of the 4 separate channels on my ZW-L to a different engine number. I used 96, 97, 98 and 99. The ZW-L must be set in command and in 4 channel mode.

GregR,

Using 99 as one of the 4 is a bad idea.  Most generations of Legacy engines will respond to Eng ID 99.

Jim

1. @GregR posted:

   This is a new bug that I believe has not been reported to Lionel. ….

   I reported it within a day or two of the release.

FYI. Here is a message I just received from TalkToUS@lionel.com

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I tried to re-address the ZW with #90 and no go. The ZW just blinks like its waiting for the Base to send it a command while in PGM mode, it never accepts the new address.   :-( Setting up the Base 3 that I have waited for 2 years now is very disappointing.

@Drawbar Cruson posted:

I tried to re-address the ZW with #90 and no go. The ZW just blinks like its waiting for the Base to send it a command while in PGM mode, it never accepts the new address.   :-( Setting up the Base 3 that I have waited for 2 years now is very disappointing.

Do you have a CAB-1L or CAB-2 that you could use to program the ZW-L into the Base-3’s database, bypassing the CAB-3 app?

I am going from Cab1 to Cab3. My original TMCC system is the Base 1. Are you saying hook up the old base, give the ZW a new number then hook up the Base 3 after removing the Base 1 and manually enter the new number as an engine?

@Drawbar Cruson posted:

I am going from Cab1 to Cab3. My original TMCC system is the Base 1. Are you saying hook up the old base, give the ZW a new number then hook up the Base 3 after removing the Base 1 and manually enter the new number as an engine?

No. Hooking the old base won’t help because you would need to program the ZW-L to the BASE-3’s database, not the old BASE-1. It appears my suggestion won’t help your situation. Sorry.