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I'd like to get some opinions from the community.

My layout is a relatively temporary setup using Fastrack and modular benchwork as we're renting right now. It's a 9' x 12' U shape with 2 mainlines and a number of sidings. I use Legacy control and have a ZW-L powering the entire layout. The inner line is ~55 feet, the outer line is ~40 feet, and the sidings are ~40 feet. Switches are all Fastrack Command Control enabled and are powered by the track.

I currently only have 4 power drops to the entire layout and my LC+2.0 Big Boy is experiencing some sound issues - specifically chuffs will crackle or cut out as it runs around the layout. Aaron from Lionel support mentioned that this is likely a symptom of insufficient power to the layout (i.e. dead spots or voltage drops). My other locos (TMCC and Legacy Diesels) don't have the same issue, but I'm wondering if the Big Boy has stricter power requirements due to how much more complex it is. I set up a test track (8x 10" straights wired to an output of the ZW-L) and ran the Big Boy back and forth at different speeds for about 5 minutes. During that time, I observed no crackles at all. They've been happening pretty consistently when I run the loco on the layout, so I suspect this may indeed be power related.

I'm planning on adding more power drops to my layout and am hoping to get some feedback on the current plan:

  • Blue box is the ZW-L
  • Black boxes are terminal blocks mounted underneath the layout and connected to the ZW-L posts using 16 gauge speaker wire
  • Black track sections are 1 3/8" isolators with the jumper removed to separate mainlines and sidings
  • Red track sections will be connected to terminal blocks with 16 gauge speaker wire using crimped 0.110 spade connectors on the track end

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Should this power distribution be sufficient? Thanks!

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In addition to just pure size and length, power consumption and the number of power drops needed also has a lot to do with what kinds of trains, passenger cars, lighting, etc. that will be used on the layout but, generally speaking, a power drop every 8-10 track sections (no matter the length) should be sufficient to get you in the ballpark.

You can always add more later, but your plan looks like it mostly conforms, although there is a sizeable gap at the crossover in the middle and you might try to add a drop in that area.

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@Richie C. posted:

In addition to just pure size and length, power consumption and the number of power drops needed also has a lot to do with what kinds of trains, passenger cars, lighting, etc. that will be used on the layout but, generally speaking, a power drop every 8-10 track sections (no matter the length) should be sufficient to get you in the ballpark.

You can always add more later, but your plan looks like it mostly conforms, although there is a sizeable gap at the crossover in the middle and you might try to add a drop in that area.

I run mostly freight but I do have one passenger train - a TMCC Amtrak Dash-9 pulling 6 Williams Amtrak Superliners. The lighting in those passenger cars pulls 4-5 amps when they're all on the track. One reason I opted to power the two mainlines separately

I don't think there are any places to add a drop with the spade connectors in that middle area with the crossover and switches, which is why I don't have a drop planned there. If it give me trouble, I'll have to see if I can solder a drop to the crossover itself.

@CAPPilot posted:

Reading your description of your layout, you are currently TMCC/Legacy/LC+2.0 only.  Using buss wiring will work.

Do you ever plan to add DCS in the future?  If so, some mods should be made by isolating the center rail between each of your red track connections.

I'm actually planning to wire things up in a "star" pattern (unless I'm misunderstanding) just because it feels simpler, has fewer connections (aka fewer failure points) and I've already got the terminal blocks mounted underneath under the layout right behind where the ZW-L sits.

Just TMCC/Legacy right now - I don't have the appetite to purchase another control system right now and as I typically run trains by myself, I don't really want to deal with two separate control systems either. Isolating all those sections would also require some rework of the track plan. Great advice, though - if I ever get the chance to build a permanent layout, I think I'd definitely do the extra work to wire in a way that would support DCS so the layout is future proof!

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