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Here are the basics.   (And a picture of 2 simple loops...and an idea for the yard fill in the blanks)

 

- Basement Layout, I'll be hand building all the bench work

- 2 large loops, one O84 and one O72

- O36 Smaller loop taking up aprox. 1/2 the 18ft length with buildings, streets, basically well detailed.

- Want it to be "cool" enough to want to keep at least basic design for MANY MANY years to come.

- Small 2x2 Yard area next to dead space.

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Then you'd better start with some more givens & druthers. You haven't provided enough to work with yet.

Command or Conventional running?

Where's the entrance or viewing area?

Any elevations wanted?

How many switches and wyes are in the budget?

Walk around?

Walls on which sides, if not a walk around?

Open center or big table with access hatches? If open, How wide will the benchwork be? 36" ok?

 

Ok, so you want the large radius turns, hence the oval.

You need 8'-12' for a nice yard or turntable/roundhouse. The little spot is ok for your cabeese.

 

Here's some reading material to start the idea's flowing.

 

 

 

 

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100% Command Control(Legacy).  Plan is for Command Control O72 switches, RH/WYE switches
entrance is the left of the base drawing i provided
elevations are not needed but i would not rule them out.
 
just looking for ideas for a starting/continuing point at this point.
 
Originally Posted by Moonman:

Then you'd better start with some more givens & druthers. You haven't provided enough to work with yet.

Command or Conventional running?

Where's the entrance or viewing area?

Any elevations wanted?

How many switches and wyes are in the budget?

 

A "u" shape utilizes the space better and provides expansion opportunities and arm's reach access.

You need 8'-12' for a nice yard or turntable/roundhouse. You can peninsula one like Clifford's area.

 

Here's some reading material to start the idea's flowing.

 

 

 

 

 

Originally Posted by Mark Bee:
100% Command Control(Legacy).  Plan is for Command Control O72 switches, RH/WYE switches
entrance is the left of the base drawing i provided
elevations are not needed but i would not rule them out.
 
just looking for ideas for a starting/continuing point at this point.
 
 

So, entering from the left, are there walls at the top and right, where you have deadspace?

 

Is there room to walk around it?

 

How wide to you want the deck or baseboard to be?

 

Items needed: a way to change direction, ability to change tracks, a yard, accessories?

 

I can work on some ideas this weekend if you give me help on the details.

 

There's too many variables when you want to take a racetrack and make it interesting. Planning and writing what you want saves a lot of time through the whole process. Sketch the room and some ideas on a piece of paper and mess around with it. If you get something that you like, take a photo and post it. Clifford planned his that way. 

Mark,

I had some pre-made elements and put this together for you as the next step.

  1. Leaves a 30" walk-around
  2. Uses dead space (I hope you didn't mean not usable by "dead space"
  3. Provides change of direction
  4. Outer\Inner cross-overs next
  5. Straighten legs of reversing loops
  6. Yard at top or bottom?
  7. A third line inside?

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Mark Bee

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Mark,

Well, that last offering by sucked. Too busy with other items. Here's something I came up with for you.

I needed 9" of the "dead space". If the "dead space" is a wall, I set it to have a tunnel into it\through it.

Most of the small fitters are those that are included with the 072 switches that must be used on the diverging end straight (1/2 roadbed) and the divergence(no roadbed).

Still, there aren't too many. Everything will fit. The are two spots, crossover switches on the right side that actually need a 4 5/8" custom piece (4 1/2" shown). All others are standard.

 

All of the spacing is set at the center of the left side loop. 69 1/2" down, 3 1/2" in to the joint between the 5" piece and upper 084 curve. This gives you 6" center to center rail for the entire layout.

I left the center open for your imagination.

SCARM file attached.

 

Mark Bee v.4

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Originally Posted by Mark Bee:

- 2 large loops, one O84 and one O72

 

- Want it to be "cool" enough to want to keep at least basic design for MANY MANY years to come.

 

Whatever you do, IMO make sure your loops are just not simple ovals like you posted. Do a dogbone or add some type of gradual s curve into the plan. Two ovals going around in circles get old/ boring real fast.

 

 Here are some photos of my 10X16, that started as two parallel ovals with a yard similar to what you have.

 

I ended up removing the yard and adding an inside track that services an ice facility, and extended the main line out where the yard used to be, best thing I ever did.  My biggest regret is my o-60 maximum radius.

 

Certainly not an "award winning" track plan, but I'm much happier with it.

 

 

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RickO,
I hear you, but he did say two loops in large radius. Turning a train around takes a lot of space, as you well know. Here's a real bone bender that fits in the 11 x 18 in large radius. I have no idea where to put cross-overs or a yard, but it's more appealing to the eye.

By the way, I've always liked your signature. My 2 1/2 year old grandson has been watching the movie non-stop for about a month and a half now. His Mom had to get it on her iPad for on-demand watching. Now, I can't get the hobo out of myhead. "Savvy?"


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MoonMan,
 
Did you accidentally make the layout 19.66 feet long by 11 feet? before the 2 foot by 2 foot yard?
 
I need to measure again to see if this would be humanly possible but the "dead space" are book shelfs that butt up to a cement wall (the end of the basement/foundation for the house)  I really like what you did with the yard. looks great! and I like the versitility of running options on the 72" loop with 1/2, full, etc.  But Unless i measure again and miraculously find some additional distance to use... I think i am limited to 18 feet by 11 feet with a 2x2 cutout like you have in the picture....making the total length there 20 feet but 18 across the rest of the benchwork.
 
All Switches will be command control,if you have any other questions for me...please ask!
 
I love how your plan looks and i would really like to use it... If i can find the correct space.
Originally Posted by Moonman:

Mark,

Well, that last offering by sucked. Too busy with other items. Here's something I came up with for you.

I needed 9" of the "dead space". If the "dead space" is a wall, I set it to have a tunnel into it\through it.

Most of the small fitters are those that are included with the 072 switches that must be used on the diverging end straight (1/2 roadbed) and the divergence(no roadbed).

Still, there aren't too many. Everything will fit. The are two spots, crossover switches on the right side that actually need a 4 5/8" custom piece (4 1/2" shown). All others are standard.

 

All of the spacing is set at the center of the left side loop. 69 1/2" down, 3 1/2" in to the joint between the 5" piece and upper 084 curve. This gives you 6" center to center rail for the entire layout.

I left the center open for your imagination.

SCARM file attached.

 

Mark Bee v.4

Mark Bee v.4_2D

 

It's a possibility what i am most worried about is that the total (Bottom) length is 260" and the top before the yard is 236"  thats ~19.66 feet not counting the dead space...more then a foot and a half more then i originally measured.  I'm going to measure again this afternoon since i got a friday off work.
 
Originally Posted by Moonman:

I didn't know what the dead space was. I was hoping it was a wall that you could build a tunnel into. can you steal some of the bookshelf space?

 

Originally Posted by CLIFFORD:

Mark here is an idea, actual size is 12' x 18'. A lot can be done in that space. Cheers!

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Clifford,

I would love to see a track plan of this layout! This is awesome!!

I have a space that is 12x25 and I have been looking for something like you posted.. I would really appreciate a track plan if you have one.

 

Thanks,

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