Hello Ken,
I really wanted to make the first plan work, that is the 5 x 17 with the big sweeping o-60 curves, yes it would visually look better. While it looks good on paper, in the real world, measuring it out with the tape measure is VERY BIG...
What caught my eye on your 3-4 train - 5x12 layout was the narrowness of it all... It fits much better, long and narrow, and o-36 and o-48, smallish... but it has that awesome passing loop where another train can be stored.
The 5x17 does not provide for that.
btw, both of these plans come from you originally... all I've done is add the o-72 switches to them.
Doesn't look like much, but the change in the angle degree makes a difference in the layout. |Sometimes it is not worth the change.
I have 12 O-72 turnouts, a small investment for sure, which is why I try to incorporate what I have...
No one was using the O-60's back 'in the day'... it was o-36 and O-72...
I would love the first design, 5x17 with an outside passing loop... that would be awesome... but the space I have - is the space I have...
What I need to do is to clean off the table and start laying down the O-60... its the only way I will ever know for sure.
Thanks again for all your hard work... I know how much time I spend - adjusting your plan... you are starting from scratch.
Bryan