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Greetings.

Some people are very good at visual conception - I'm not one of them. I also do not want to learn and fiddle with another software program.

I'd like to hire someone / some company to work with me to design a layout in the space I have allocated.

I have the room diagrams (two adjoining rooms) and a list of wants / must haves.

Unfortunately my first experience at this was not good. I found and paid someone $350 and while he came up with a decent option, when I asked him to provide a track list he said "that will be an extra $300". The rest of the conversation was not pleasant.

Any opinions on what this type of service should cost or who does this type of thing?

The current OGR has a company advertised "Deadhead Layout Design" - anyone us them?

Thank you for any suggestions.

Paul

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IMHO, the "top drawer" designer/builder is Roger Farkash & crew at TW Trainworx in Dallas, TX. The website address is:  twtrainworx.com.  The company has designed & built museum-quality O-gauge layouts for Lionel LLC and many others. Yes, their services are pricey, which goes with being the best!

However, if you only want a track plan that you can build as a DIY project (i.e., no follow-through to construction by the designer), then there are numerous players in that field. I suggest Mr. Muffin in Indiana, a well-known train dealer, layout designer, and builder -- including the "golly gee whiz" layout in his store. With a finished track plan in hand, you could place orders for track, switches, control gear, trains, buildings, accessories, scale autos, figures, and all else through him.

If you live far away from Indiana and prefer an arms-length connection to a designer, then do a GOOGLE search for:  "O-gauge model railroad designer" who may live and work in your vicinity.  There is a "rub-off" benefit from working with a designer in your area during the process.

Carry on ...

Mike Mottler    LCCA 12394

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If you post room dimensions, some pictures, and a rough idea of what you want here, someone would likely help.  Many of us have track planning software.  I can’t guarantee I’d get it done on your timeline, but I’d be happy to give it a shot.  

Here are some designs I’ve done:
https://ogrforum.com/...8#148675927190992568

https://ogrforum.com/...4#155152949802973264

Once its done the SCARM software I use will give you a parts list for track.

Hi John, good morning. I have the track plan and will post it below.

Mike, I didn't think of TW because I thought they did turn-key buildouts and didn't realize they can do only track plans. In addition - wow, why didn't I think of Mr Muffin? Once again I didn't realize he offered design services.

RPLST8 - nice designs and my timeframe is having trains running in the late summer / fall. I'll post my diagram below.

NECRails - Thanks for the tip, I will reach out to kenoscale.

Here is my room diagram and track plan as designed. I am not sure I like this plan - it is nice, but I don't get any reverse loops or a good yard area to build trains. The size available is pretty good - but it is two rooms joined by my recent "daylighting" of the wall between them so it is a little funky in shape.

Besides the reverse loop I'd like one loop of 072 (even though I am still fighting the internal battle of whether I really need 072) and a passing siding. I'd also like a decent yard lead to put together consists without fouling either of the two mains. I'm also thinking of either a elevated line or varying height of the mains.

Thank you gents for your input and any further suggestions / ideas that can be offered.

Paul

Room Diagram:Both Rooms Template Grid

Here is the layout first design. It is nice but wondering if something else would be better

Layout Dec 4

A couple still images of the space: Below is the "2nd" room shown at the top of the above diagram.

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A have a short video to provide more room detail but it is over the 100mb limit to attach.

Once again - thank you everyone for the input, it is appreciated.

Paul

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@Railrunnin posted:

...Here is my room diagram and track plan as designed. I am not sure I like this plan - it is nice, but I don't get any reverse loops or a good yard area to build trains. The size available is pretty good - but it is two rooms joined by my recent "daylighting" of the wall between them so it is a little funky in shape.

Besides the reverse loop I'd like one loop of 072 (even though I am still fighting the internal battle of whether I really need 072) and a passing siding. I'd also like a decent yard lead to put together consists without fouling either of the two mains. I'm also thinking of either a elevated line or varying height of the mains.



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Room Diagram:Both Rooms Template Grid

Here is the layout first design. It is nice but wondering if something else would be better

Layout Dec 4

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My 2 cents (worth every penny!) from someone who is in a similar dilemma...

You have a beautiful space that affords you a lot of flexibility.  That's both a blessing and a curse.  So many things you can do - hard to choose.  I'll be following this thread to hopefully glean some ideas.

Have you nailed down your preferences, such as loop running vs. switching, long passenger trains, accessories, type of scenery?  Answers to those questions can help you narrow down the details.

Given the size of your space, I'd definitely recommend at least one full loop of O-72 or larger; even if you don't have anything that needs it now, you probably eventually will, or a friend might bring something to run.  A lot of stuff just looks better on O-72 anyway.

Edit:  A yard for building trains requires a LOT of real estate. I think that what you have in that plan can give a nice illusion of a yard.  IMO, the existing plan is pretty good. 

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If you fill that back room with tabletops and track, you wont be able to see a thing, let alone work on it. It sounds appealing to cram every square foot possible with layout, but in reality that doesnt often work well. The yard laid in there like that is novel, but unworkable, as you cant reach the far end of it when something picks a switch. You need access to that back room, instead of all those loop de loops, consider doing it as a perimeter shelf.

Depending on what you may want to run now and in the future, the O-72/O-80 double mainline will not support certain combinations of trains (engine with lots of overhang on inside, long cars on outside).  4” C-C is not enough.  I bring this up again because I needed to relay some track on my previous layout when I bought my Y3, an engine I thought I would never get.

As a minimum I would look at using Atlas O-81, or using flex track for that size.  That extra half inch makes a difference.

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