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I thought I posted this topic yesterday morning, but when I went to look for replies, either I had been unsuccessful in posting the topic or it had been deleted.  Hope I didn't offend the webmaster, but here goes again.

 

I'm moving my basement layout to one of our bedrooms as my daughters want more space in the basement for playing and entertaining,  and the 4 of them are willing to "bunk up" in 2 bedrooms. So, I'm going to be building yet another layout, but I find that more fun than running them.

 

The bedroom gives me the opportunity to build a loop around the room near the ceiling like so many others do.  I'm thinking of two loops for two passenger trains using O27 track with 54" and 42" curves.  I've got too much of this track to go with anything else.

 

On the surface, this seems like a relatively simple construction project.  Since I won't be climbing on it, I'm planning to put foam on top of the plywood base. Then, I'll use the Scenic Woodlands foam for the road bed. I'm also going to look for some paper scenery to put on the walls. I realize a guard rail is an absolute necessity.

 

I'm not planning to put any switches on these loops....just for running passenger trains.  I'll probably leave space for some passenger stations, etc. and some rural scenery. 

 

Any tips, tricks, or recommendations from those that have done this before?

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raising 4 daughters

A regards guard rails, I used 1/8" plexiglas x 2-1/2" high[cut in strips by Lowe's]. However over 16 years on twin shelves 14x32, with 5 tracks and much run and display activity I never had a derailment that came anywhere close to hitting the plexiglas fence.

 

I ran a 4-6-6-4 Clinchfield Challenger with 30 coal hoppers on the upper track of the 9' high shelf and on several occasions the first 8-10 cars "stringlined" upon entering a curve,uncoupled and tumbled over. I eventually weighted them which fixed the problem. But my point, none of the cars ever came down the stepped tracks and hit the fence.

 

A lot of folks ,including my 4 Grand Daughters, ran my trains fast but fortunately derailments were not severe wrecks or trains-to-fence/floor.

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Last edited by Dewey Trogdon

On the three ceiling layout I have built for people, I mention to them that if they are going to be 8 inches to a foot from the ceiling, with two lines, I suggest raising one of the lines with a 2 inch thick piece of styofoam on the back loop and a 1/2 inch on the front loop.  If they have the room over doorframes and such, I reccommend 12-14 inches so that the scenery papers fit from shelf to ceiling.  I never use screws to hold the track in place.  I use zip-ties(cable ties) it takes two for each track.  I use very small ones, usually black, and I place one down through the hole in the track and the othe from the bottom of the board.  This reduces the transfer of sound, and makes it very simple if you happen to have a piece of track go bad.  You just clip the cable tie, remove the bad track, replace, and install two cable ties.  You are not up in a confined space screwing screws.  The final suggestions are on my layouts if I had two corners that could be dropped, it creates a great scenery area of focus...trestle bridge, viaduct, ravine, autos going through tunnels and lights etc. to draw attention to the upper loop.

 

These layouts have made my customers very happy and I agree, you do not need to worry about guard rail.  both layouts I did had legacy, TMCC, or DCS so they ran long consists at a fairly slow speed.  I don't think that there has ever been a derailment.

My shelf layout is about 12" from the ceiling althou just single loop I put the green indoor/outdoor carpet on the underside and part of topside of the layout so from underneath it looks better than just thye plain wood. I do not have guardrails my thinking if its going to jump any direction it would be inward most likely. 

If you goto this link it will take you to my shutterfly page and you can see over 800 real train pictures ( I normally goto slideshow full screen and have some music on  also you will see links to see my shelf layout there now these are old video's this was using O-31 track I now have O-54 up there. the one that feels like your driving I put a cheap lionel 7" flat in front and rubberband my camera onto that. again these videos are about 3 or 4 years old. https://rtssite.shutterfly.com/

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