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I'm planning a layout using Atlas track and switches. What is the difference between a #5 turnout and #7.5 turnout.  Maybe the speed that a train can comfortably transfer across?  Would these types of switches be used to allow trains to transfer to a different main line and a type of switch that is described as 0-XX curve be used for the area of a yard or spur?  Also what is a comfortable distance between rails? I do have some Lionel auto racks and the 89' box cars on order which means O-63 will be my minimum curve.  My layout will be 8' deep and can't get much deeper due to the size of my basement.  

 

And of course I'll take any other advise that anyone will offer.  This is my first layout outside of the 4x8 layout my dad and I put up for Christmas.  

 

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Originally Posted by BigMike88:

... What is the difference between a #5 turnout and #7.5 turnout.  Maybe the speed that a train can comfortably transfer across?  Would these types of switches be used to allow trains to transfer to a different main line and a type of switch that is described as 0-XX curve be used for the area of a yard or spur?  Also what is a comfortable distance between rails? ...

 

O-xx turnouts have an actual curve in the diverging route of the turnout, whereas numbered turnouts (i.e., #5, #7.5 in Atlas-O products or #4, #6, #8 or #10 in Ross products) allow for much more gradual diverging routes in the turnout -- the higher the turnout number, the more gradual the diverging route.  #5 indicates the diverging route measures 1 diverging (vertical) unit for every 5 linear (horizontal) units, whereas a #7.5 indicates the diverging route measures 1 diverging unit for every 7.5 linear units, etc... (see Mike's photos in the above post for a visual representation).

 

Numbered turnouts are DEFINITELY the way to go when connecting parallel mainline tracks, since they avoid the S-curve inherent with O-xx turnouts.  Atlas-O's track geometry typically provides for 4.5" center-to-center parallel track spacing.  And both the #5 and #7.5 turnouts yield this spacing when used as mainline cross-overs with the diverging routes connected together.  Theoretically speaking, #7.5 turnouts would provide greater "high-speed" transition of trains between mainlines vs. #5 turnouts -- especially for trains consisting of longer, scale-length cars.  But practically speaking, #5's will work just fine as mainline cross-overs unless you really have the real estate for #7.5 turnouts.  #7.5's will definitely need more linear space to accomplish the same function as #5's, but the sleek look of trains traversing #7.5 cross-overs is really cool.  Gotta see it to appreciate why those high-numbered turnouts are built the way they are. 

 

If you have the space, I'd stick with numbered turnouts throughout your layout.  And only use the O-xx style turnouts for a tight branch-line or industrial spur where you don't have the necessary real-estate to accommodate numbered switches.  O-xx turnouts are typically NOT appropriate for yards, since they'll create track spacing that's unnecessarily far apart.  Best to use #'d turnouts in a yard, where center-to-center track spacing can drop to less than 3" as needed to increase yard capacity.

 

BTW, watch out for those 89' boxcars on O-63 curves.  That's a pretty sharp curve for scale-length freight and passenger cars.  Proceed with caution... and stick with O-72 minimums for your mainline curves -- and even at that, those 89' cars will have noticeable overhang inside the curve.  And you may find the 4.5" center-to-center spacing with Atlas-O's standard sectional track pieces may not provide sufficient clearance when operating longer scale equipment on lesser-radii parallel curve tracks.

 

Hope that helps!

 

David

Last edited by Rocky Mountaineer

Atlas sectional curves will produce a 4.5" spacing.  The diameters differ by 9". 

 

The a crossover using the Atlas #5 turnout or the #7 will maintain that 4.5" separation.  If you wanted a 5" (and additional 0.5 inches) spacing you would needed to insert 2 x 1.25" sections or 3 x 1.25" sections of track respectively.

 

Here are some informative data sheets from the Atlas O website which you should find useful. 

 

Jan

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Originally Posted by Jan:

Atlas sectional curves will produce a 4.5" spacing.  The diameters differ by 9". 

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True.  However, a cool technique to yield a bit more center-to-center spacing on the curves -- which I first saw on Norm C's layout -- is to stagger the start of the curves a bit.  You can play around with RR-Track software or whatever track planning software you care to use to get the desired effect(s).  But it works great, 'cause you can maintain the 4.5" centers on the straight-aways which is more than sufficient.  Yet on the curves, you'll wind up with a slightly variable center-to-center distance throughout various portions of the curve, but it will always be greater than 4.5".  The maximum distance will occur at the 90-degree portion of the arc and will be based on how much you offset/stagger the start of the curve. 

 

When done properly, you don't notice the curves aren't 100% concentric anymore, but it's a subtle enough difference that avoids any side-swiping issues on parallel curve tracks when running articulated locomotives, 89' freight cars and full-scale 21" passenger cars.  The sharper the radii, the more you may need to offset entries to the parallel curves.  If running Atlas-O O-99 and O-108, you may not need to do this at all. Whereas if you're running O-72 and O-81 curves, the offset curves could save a bunch of headaches down the road when running the longer equipment.

 

Best of luck... and have fun planning!

 

David

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