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My children and I have a 5.5 x 8 foot layout in the basement that is a work in progress.  It is great fun, but I went a tad overboard and made things more complicated than needed.  It was all in the name of fun and making it interesting, but ultimately, it has been a slow process to get everything operational.  The trains can run, but all of the accessories needed a little work when I bought them, so we are slowly still trying to get everything running.

A realization occurred to me over the last Christmas season.  We had a simple oval set up in the living room that acutally got played with a lot!  Imagine that, for kids, a simple and running layout is greater than complex and, at times, finicky layout.

The other issue as I see it is that the 5.5 x 8ft layout in the basement is "Out of sight, and out of mind."  Our children are younger, and they do not typically spend a lot of time on their own in the finished basement (nor do we really want them to).  They are young enough that they generally need supervision.  I happily take them down to run trains once in a while, but generally speaking the trains are not available to them at their fingertips.

The other thing I do not like about the 5.5x8ft table is that the track is all fixed to the table.  The semi-permanent track configuration stifles creativity and creating new track designs.  Looking back at when I was a kid, physically creating new track designs was one of the best aspects of model railroading/toy trains.  Also, the table size limits the straightaways and reduces speed.

In an effort to solve the above issues, I want to make a more simple, but still intriging layout that can be slid under a bed.  I want to combine the best aspects of a permanent train board and the play value of a carpet central.  The ability for a youngster to plug and play at a whim is essential, alongside the ability to use the entire bedroom for track design.  The “core” train board will have track semi-permanently fixed to it along with wiring and the transformer on 3/4 in plywood.  I also want to have tracks that lead off of the board and out into the expansive space of the bedroom for track building.

 Thinking through the design, I started with the basic design below - oval with figure 8.  Excellent play value in a small space.

F8 Oval

 

Then I considered, why not move the top switches down around the ends of the oval, to allow give a slightly different look to a very basic design?  Also, I like that all of the switches are on one side, so they could be manual if desired.  The around the top loop is the default position of the "freestyle track". 

 

F8 Oval v2

 

I want to provide the ability to lay tracks off of the board while  the "core" of the layout stays on the board and can be plug and play ready - running trains within seconds. Below is what I would expect the core to be.  At minimum, we can run a figure 8 with nothing else needed.  There is always the option to install the default loop, or go off the board and create virtually any track design.  

F8 Oval v3

Freestyle off the board example:

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I would love to hear your thoughts and or experiences with slide under the bed layouts and the flexible aspect of going off the board. Is this approach worth while?

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I like the idea of it, I can see where you are coming from. The problem might be with the off table part of this (and these are just my thoughts). One of the problems will be that even using the thinnest of boards, you will have a difference in height if the rest of the track is on the room's floor. While you aren't talking all that much, you may need to think about having some sort of transition ramp (not part of the put away portion of the layout) that  can be used to support the track coming to/from the table. It could be a small ramp, if you use a 1/2" board as the table, then it would need to go from 1/2 to 0 in maybe a foot or so. One thought, have velcro on points where  they might want to attach the temporary tracks in, so the ramp can be 'stuck' there and then removed when the temp track is taken up. Another thing you might want to think of (given the relative size you show in the picture) will be with how to have power drops in the 'temp space' easily but where the kids won't trip over it, the track may be large enough where you get a power drop at the areas further out. 

The other question is track, from your diagram it looks like you will be using tinplate track, which is pretty rugged, for the temporary track and it is relatively easy to take apart and store while the trains are not being used. 

I love this idea, I think it really is worthwhile for the kids to be able to enjoy it, especially as they can continually redesign it, or even if they just run trains on the main board it is fun

@bigkid thanks for you input. Velcro ramps are a great idea. I have to do more thinking or get some ideas from the masses on wiring the temp space. Something easy such as prewired lockons etc. I do intend to use template track. 

@bobotech thanks for your thoughts. It will be conventional and/or lionchief. I was going back and forth between no. 022 switches and no. 042 switches. I think the non-derailing feature of the 022s should make it relatively simple to use. You make a good point to keep it simple and not foul it up being too difficult for young kids to use. 

I like your plans.  Being able to reverse the trains in both directions is something I've always liked.  It makes the runs appear to be longer, since the times the trains take before going over the same sections in the same direction is longer.  Using track clips (if you use tubular track) should help avoid problems as the trains ride off the table, especially if you use straight tracks.  Connecting curves to the table may have the potential of causing the track to bank causing derailments.

I may be a little late here, sorry.  If you recall the movie The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951) the kid in the movie had a train platform that rolled under the bed.  I wouldn't use 3/4 plywood because of the weight.  But it should be thick enough it won't yield to kids crawling on it.  I'd think about 1/4 or 1/2 with a frame structure to support it and then put it on rubber casters so it would roll under the bed when not in use.

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@Foxer55 posted:

I may be a little late here, sorry.  If you recall the movie The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951) the kid in the movie had a train platform that rolled under the bed.  I wouldn't use 3/4 plywood because of the weight.  But it should be thick enough it won't yield to kids crawling on it.  I'd think about 1/4 or 1/2 with a frame structure to support it and then put it on rubber casters so it would roll under the bed when not in use.

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http://www.toytrainrevue.com/hollywd.htm

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JD,

The roll-away layout is a pretty neat idea.

I believe that the planning and construction of the very light, easily rollable, but sturdy for kid-crawl train board is going to be more complicated than figuring out the layout for the board.

And, just my opinion, but it seems to me that perhaps you may already be getting too caught-up and complicated with respect to the layout.   It is suppose to be very simple, for basic kid play.  But geez, you've already posted four different layout configurations, each more complicated than the one before.  :-)    (In other words, you are starting to go "a tad overboard" again!)

Go with the standard simple figure-8 inside the oval.  (Your first proposal.  Go with your gut.)    Build the dang thing and turn it over to your kids.  Then, let em play .   As they learn more and more, you can work with them to add simple changes, step by step.

Mannyrock

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