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Hello every one. I am new to this forum and I enjoy it a lot. I have been away from the train hobby for a couple of years due to separation and loss of home hence loss of my basic HO and O scale layout. Now I am back into the hobby and I am committing to 3R O scale. I will be building this layout starting in a few weeks. I have no room for an inside layout but I do have an outside semi enclosed area. It has a roof and two full walls and a cement floor and it is attached to the side of the house (sorry no picture, I am overseas now). So rain and sun are not a problem but all other weather elements do exist.

 

I have a enough MTH Scaletrax and Realtrax to do the job. I like Scaletrax because when I used it it ran great and it looked great but it did not have a roadbed, so I tried Realtrax and I had a major problems with disconnects between the welded tabs/tracks but after much frustrations and fixing brand new tracks, I got it running and I liked the convenience of the roadbed, I also prefer the solid rail Realtrax.. I have not decided which to use yet. you can help make this decision.

 

The layout size will be Four feet by Sixteen feet. I will build a frame to support TWO 4'x8' sheets of 1/2'" or 3/4" plywood and will use 2" foam on top fastened with screws. Each 4x8 section will have casters to be able to move around if I have to and will be locked together to form an 4'x16' platform. If you have any suggestion about how to build the frame, please let me know.

 

I will need a 0-72" loop in the future to accommodate some of my MTH and future VL BB steam engines. This can be in the form of added sections at the 4 ft sides, I am thinking they will be TWO 4'x7' sections with casters to make a U shape layout. This will make a 24' long layout which is all I have for length.

 

For the 4'x16' layout, I am looking at Two main loops with a reversing loop or two. I like to make the two main loops run separately or with a switch or two run as one continuous loop and then be able to reverse direction and run the loops in the opposite way. I will of course use 0-42 and 0-36 curves. I do have 0-72 and 0-80 if needed.

 

I am very bad with scenery so I want a very basic scenery, I am not sure but may be an industrial one will be OK, again let me know what you think. BTW, I love LOCOS and I like all road names. If I like the look of a loco I buy it if I can. I prefer  Freight but I also like passenger such as the Hiawatha set...

 

I have many MTH steam and Diesel right now and I plan to add Lionel steam and diesel in the next few months. I will be using DCS, Legacy and if I have to, conventional but that is very low priority. I am familiar with DCS and I think Legacy will be very similar. I am an Electrical/Mechanical Engineer so I am OK with electronics and mechanics. I like to work on my trains if I have to instead of sending them back for repairs.

 

No elevation is planned because I had not done it in O scale, but I did a very basic up and down in HO. I do have MTH plastic set for an up/down, so I can use it if you give me some ideas.

 

As you can see, I just want to have some fun and I am open to all ideas from you guys.

 

The layout will be in the San Jose area and will be covered when not in use. I plan to keep the locos inside my room but the cars can be left outside. At least I will leave the cheap ones out, not the premier ones. IF the power system has to be inside a box to protect it from the elements, I can do that and I can add a fan to keep it cool.

 

i may have missed some stuff, so please go ahead and ask.

 

I think this forum is very informative and I look forward to contributing to it as much as I can....Cheers folks!

 

Sam E.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Don't leave ANY O gauge equipment outdoors. It's not weather-protected and will deteriorate. You can run it outdoors as several people have demonstrated. ScaleTrax ties aren't UV protected, but Atlas' ties are so it's better suited for outdoor use, but I've heard that the Atlas ties become brittle over time. Wood ties get eaten by bugs unless heavily treated. I've heard there are some UV protectant sprays that can be applied, but don't know the specifics.

 

There are various roadbed construction techniques and opinions differ as to whether it's better to have the track on the ground or elevated and what type of roadbed to use, but I think that comes down to personal preference and the particular weather patterns in your area (thermal expansion is a nightmare in some areas).

 

I've looked at going outdoors for the past few years, but whether I do or not is dependent on where I relocate to and the available space.

 

Good luck.

Joe, thx a lot. I will make sure to contact you when I am back in town.

 

Matt; the layout will be elevated on a frame and will be out of the sun rays of course.

 

I am still looking for some track plans/suggestions for the 4'x16' .

 

Are there any of you guys with a running layout in the San Jose area? I am dying to run some of my O scale locos, they need to be exercised after a long sleep...

 

Cheers!

 

Sam E.

I have G gauge outdoors and if you are using plywood, only use CDX meant for exterior use. I would not use the track type you are intending on using if it is brass as it will be a routine chore to get rid of the constant tarnishing. Gargraves stainless steel track is best. I would not use any foam insulation board exposed to the elements, and then there is the question of the weather resistance of adhesives which can fail or become brittle outdoors in direct sunlight. I would use natural materials as you would for a raised garden bed making sure that there is adequate drainage and a good sealant, or roofing material on the ply as well as solid framing. Many English layouts use this technique. There are several "how to" articles in the G gauge universe on these aspects. Then there are critters...like squirrels birds etc that are apt to land on your layout...thats another reason to avoid indoor techniques outside. Either quick disconnects or weather proof transformer boxes are a necessity in the event of an unexpected downpour...GFI is an absolute necessity. I would do more reading on this as a lot of G gauge techniques are transferable to O.

Best of luck..

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