I encourage anyone doing this for the first time to read all the instructions. Then ask specific questions. Its way too hard to cover the entire procedure when you may be stuck on a little part of it.
MartyE,
When I send my new 990 in for repair, will Lionel automatically upgrade it with the new changes as well or is this something I need to ask them to do to the unit.
PCRR/Dave
Dave, I suggest you ask Lionel. I doubt Marty speaks for them, they may or may not upgrade it.
Guns,
I just thought Marty might know, however will comply with your suggestion to ask
Lionel myself.
PCRR/Dave
Thanks John.
FWIW, the last time I sent a Legacy in, it was updated. However, I don't know if that's the normal procedure or if it's hit or miss.
Can you buy the upgrade modules from Lionel anymore, or is it only make your own now?
Can you buy the upgrade modules from Lionel anymore, or is it only make your own now?
I honestly don't know. Since I'm not a potential customer for shelling out cash for a one time module when I can upgrade for free from now on, I don't really care.
As GRJ said I do not represent Lionel but I'm not sure that's relevant to your question.
That being said Lionel has in the past always installed the latest software on the CAB2 and Base. It has been reported on the forum many times by members who have sent their bases in for repair.
In answer to sinclair's question, currently, there are no pre-made v1.53 blue modules available to sell. One of the benefits of the free Legacy System Utility is that code can be quickly released to customers without waiting to mass-produce blue modules, ship them, etc. Making them yourself, or having a fellow user help, is the way to go for now.
And again, 1.53 is a relatively modest update. No one is missing out on any new features by not running the latest version.
One of the benefits of the free Legacy System Utility is that code can be quickly released to customers without waiting to mass-produce blue modules, ship them, etc. Making them yourself, or having a fellow user help, is the way to go for now.
I find the LSU to be very user friendly. It took less than 5 minutes to write the code to the modules and install it in the base and remote. Charles Ro always has sets of the black modules with the latest code for sale.
I run Apple, so I don't have a way to connect to the base and use the software without a cash outlay, so buying the blue modules would be cheaper for me. As for LHS, the only one left is hardcore MTH, so instead of helping me upgrade Legacy they'll only try to sell me DCS. I have ordered from Charles Ro in the past, so if I get a chance I'll give them a call and see if they can ship me a module.
If there are members in the Rochester, NY area that need help, You can contact me through E-Mail to arrange a meet.
here's a link to the 1.53 upgrage
http://www.lionel.com/customer...153CABBASEupdate.zip
I run Apple, so I don't have a way to connect to the base and use the software without a cash outlay, so buying the blue modules would be cheaper for me. As for LHS, the only one left is hardcore MTH, so instead of helping me upgrade Legacy they'll only try to sell me DCS. I have ordered from Charles Ro in the past, so if I get a chance I'll give them a call and see if they can ship me a module.
It's the black modules that you need. They are writable.
I run Apple, so I don't have a way to connect to the base and use the software without a cash outlay, so buying the blue modules would be cheaper for me. As for LHS, the only one left is hardcore MTH, so instead of helping me upgrade Legacy they'll only try to sell me DCS. I have ordered from Charles Ro in the past, so if I get a chance I'll give them a call and see if they can ship me a module.
It's the black modules that you need. They are writable.
He can't write with Apple. Marty said that Charles Ro could send you the latest version on black modules.
I run Apple, so I don't have a way to connect to the base and use the software without a cash outlay, so buying the blue modules would be cheaper for me. As for LHS, the only one left is hardcore MTH, so instead of helping me upgrade Legacy they'll only try to sell me DCS. I have ordered from Charles Ro in the past, so if I get a chance I'll give them a call and see if they can ship me a module.
It's the black modules that you need. They are writable.
He can't write with Apple. Marty said that Charles Ro could send you the latest version on black modules.
Exactly. Ask Ro for black modules , not blue, with the update. per Marty Fitz
I run Apple, so I don't have a way to connect to the base and use the software without a cash outlay, so buying the blue modules would be cheaper for me. As for LHS, the only one left is hardcore MTH, so instead of helping me upgrade Legacy they'll only try to sell me DCS. I have ordered from Charles Ro in the past, so if I get a chance I'll give them a call and see if they can ship me a module.
how close to this club are you? paradise and Pacific they should be able to help you.
Tried the base update again this afternoon and stumbled across the problem I had when I first got the 990 system last fall. The base died and would not come back on. I had a similar problem when I first got the 990 last fall, thought it was the power supply? It was kind of mysterious and I never was 100% certain that was it, but it had been working flawlessly until trying to do this update.
I tried the 1.53 update the other day when MartyE first posted here that it was available. The cab update worked without a hitch, the base wouldn't update, just gave errors. So today I reloaded my base module and tried the base update again. After several attempts with errors again each time, the base went dead and would not come back on. This time I checked everything a lot more carefully and it was definitely the base. After fiddling with the base power receptacle and the power plug for a few minutes I finally got it to come back on. Was thinking about taking it apart to see if there was a loose connection, but wasn't sure about the warranty, so I decided to call Lionel tomorrow instead.
Although I have used the 990 quite a bit since then with no problems I suppose it could be something loose or something getting hot? Or something loose that is causing something to get hot? Anyway it is a very intermittent problem seeing as how it's been months since the last problem. I think it's probably time for the pros to fix it.
I am just glad I was able to recreate the original problem that I thought was fixed long ago, but was never really certain what fixed it? Maybe it's good that it reared it's head again so now it can be fixed for good this time.
About an hour away. I keep forgetting about them.
Did my base and Cab2 last nite all is well got the AUX3 showing and Cab says 1.53 in cab and base. I'm ready for future advances.
other than the aux-3 nothing note worthy? so will aux 3 be a reserved for later use like cab-1.
just kidding folks don't get feathers ruffled
If you only knew what Aux 3 does, it's pretty dang awesome. It will change the way you look at everything. We are talking Red Pill vs Blue Pill difference in the way your train and you work together
Til then
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aux3 + Eng+ #= LionChief. Just kidding....
The base start-up sequence seems a little faster.
so it shrinks me to fit inside engines cab so i can run for real!
Now that's awesome!
all kidding aside.
what's needed to make it awesome?
guess we will see once released!
so it shrinks me to fit inside engines cab so i can run for real!
Well you saw the Lionelville movie didn't you?
I'm assuming the AUX3 will add some functionality that they're planning in the future.
I'm assuming the AUX3 will add some functionality that they're planning in the future.
Huh I think I heard that before...
"Added “Aux3” softkey icon that shows up in Legacy mode for all engine types.
Pressing this key has no effect on existing Lionel products, it is for future use."
Probably why I"m assuming that.
Updated mine today. It will be interesting to see if Lionel will comment at the LUGNUTS breakfast about what the AUX3 will be used for.
Neal Jeter
so it shrinks me to fit inside engines cab so i can run for real!
Well you saw the Lionelville movie didn't you?
Still wondering if those kids will ever find their parents!!
If everyone that downloads 1.53 and presses Aux3 at the same time, they will finally produce Lionelville Part 2.
-Dave
After all my failed attempts with the base, talking to Lionel support and taking it to my LHS's authorized Lionel service tech, Lionel has mine. They will probably finish updating it after they fix it. This is the first train item I have ever had to send in for repair after returning to the hobby about 4 years ago.
Shipped it out Monday and they got it Wednesday. Just glad Lionel has a good service dept. and usually has a good turn around time. Sure hope they get it fixed.
Maybe the Legacy will be able to control the TIU???
Maybe the Legacy will be able to control the TIU???
A nice thought, but unlikely in any of our lifetimes.
-Dave
I have a hunch they also changed the smoke setting during the startup sequence. Before 1.53, the smoke unit always seemed to autostart. With 1.53 that behavior appears to have been changed to not do so, which I like.
//Scott
Interesting Scott, I hadn't noticed that. I'll give it a test...
Nope, that doesn't happen. I shutdown both my VL-BB and my K-Line TMCC tank engine with smoke operating. After a power cycle and a new startup, both came up with smoke still on.
Interesting Scott, I hadn't noticed that. I'll give it a test...
Nope, that doesn't happen. I shutdown both my VL-BB and my K-Line TMCC tank engine with smoke operating. After a power cycle and a new startup, both came up with smoke still on.
Thanks for verifying that. I must have something else going on....hmmm....
I concur. I have been running 1.53 since its release and my smoke units come back in the state they were when powered down.
I will stick with my Legacy 1.51, since my VL Hudson is my only Legacy loco!