Lionel 6-12715 iluminated bumpers on Ross track?

Those might, but I am pretty sure these, 6-62283 Diecast, fit almost all track.

They might need a little fiddling with some track types, they did with my Atlas track, but they fit.

I have never tried the ones you listed, but I think some have reported problems with getting to light reliably. Been a while since I have seen problems reported so they may have been improved?

I have the dicast  ones with Ross track.  I did have to cut off part of the ties so the back end sits flush, but you never see it.

Those are designed for use with tubular track, but, with a little modification, should be able to work with Ross track.  The feet of the bumpers are designed to fit under the rails, so you may need to detach the rail from the tie below the rear feet of the bumper in order to get it to fit properly.  

Here are a couple pics of the bumpers (in this case unlighted) installed on O27 track: 

Good luck, and keep us posted!

Mitch 

M. Mitchell Marmel posted:

Thonuse are designed for use with tubular track, but, with a little modification, should be able to work with Ross track.  The feet of the bumpers are designed to fit under the rails, so you may need to detach the rail from the tie below the rear feet of the bumper in order to get it to fit properly.  

Here are a couple pics of the bumpers (in this case unlighted) installed on O27 track: 

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Good luck, and keep us posted!

Mitch 

Thanks Mitch,

A picture is worth a thousand words, and I see very clearly what you are describing.

BTW, I see a small knob on the side of the front legs  and a thick small rectangle at the front of the rear feet.  I assume that the small, front knobs rest on the top side of the track flange, but not sure about the thick rectangle at the front of the rear feet. Can you explain the actual purpose for both?

I wonder if those feet could be trimmed, with a dremmel, to drop between the Ross ties, and still slip under the rail? It seems that, if trimmed properly, with the horizontal cut kept at flush, or just above, the top surfacbnsf be of the foot, they should be able to fit there, and have the upper web section to rest on the tie to hold it in the proper vertical position.

Make sense?

Thanks again,

Roger

I've used them on Gargraves track (same as Ross). They worked just fine. You pinch the rear "feet" in with your fingers and they fit in place just fine. I recall adjusting the tie spacing on the track.

George

RWL posted:

 

Thanks Mitch,

A picture is worth a thousand words, and I see very clearly what you are describing.

BTW, I see a small knob on the side of the front legs  and a thick small rectangle at the front of the rear feet.  I assume that the small, front knobs rest on the top side of the track flange, but not sure about the thick rectangle at the front of the rear feet. Can you explain the actual purpose for both?

Those are supports for the brass strips in lighted bumpers.   

I wonder if those feet could be trimmed, with a dremmel, to drop between the Ross ties, and still slip under the rail? It seems that, if trimmed properly, with the horizontal cut kept at flush, or just above, the top surface of the foot, they should be able to fit there, and have the upper web section to rest on the top syrface of the tie to hold it in the proper vertical position.

Make sense?

As long as you have some upper and lower web to grip the base of the rail, I should think it would work fine!  

Mitch 

Those little molded in tabs , just above each of the feet: Do those rest on the top of the rail flange to keep the bumper dropping down below the desired vertical pisition?

Don't mean to hi-jack RWL original post, but an interesting question.  On the subject of illuminated bumpers, which have been around since the early prewar days, did railroads back in the day have any lights/lanterns on end of track bumpers in the yards, industrial sidings in real life?  Anyone happen to have a picture of a real illuminated bumper?

Do a search for "Track Bumpers".

There is a thread on that

Chuck Sartor posted:

Don't mean to hi-jack RWL original post, but an interesting question.  On the subject of illuminated bumpers, which have been around since the early prewar days, did railroads back in the day have any lights/lanterns on end of track bumpers in the yards, industrial sidings in real life?  Anyone happen to have a picture of a real illuminated bumper?

Do a search for "Track Bimpers".

There is a thread on that very subject.

RWL posted:

Those little molded in tabs , just above each of the feet: Do those rest on the top of the rail flange to keep the bumper dropping down below the desired vertical pisition?

They rest on the top of the rail base, with the feet tucked underneath, thus:

Mitch 

Chuck Sartor posted:

Don't mean to hi-jack RWL original post, but an interesting question.  On the subject of illuminated bumpers, which have been around since the early prewar days, did railroads back in the day have any lights/lanterns on end of track bumpers in the yards, industrial sidings in real life?  Anyone happen to have a picture of a real illuminated bumper?

Not on the bumper proper, but here are a couple of bumpers on the Broad Street Subway with lights above them...

Given the concrete wall, I think the "All Trains Stop" sign is a wee bit redundant,  but oh, well.   

Mitch 

M. Mitchell Marmel posted:

RWL posted:

Those little molded in tabs , just above each of the feet: Do those rest on the top of the rail flange to keep the bumper dropping down below the desired vertical pisition?

They rest on the top of the rail base, with the feet tucked underneath, thus:

Mitch 

Thanks Mitch,

I found a really good deal on a pack of six of these (lighted) from a guy on ebay. I bought them without questioning it they would work with Ross track. I believe they will be fine.

Thanks again for the info,

Roger 

RWL posted:

 

Thanks Mitch,

I found a really good deal on a pack of six of these (lighted) from a guy on ebay. I bought them without questioning it they would work with Ross track. I believe they will be fine.

Thanks again for the info,

My pleasure!  Keep us posted; I'm curious to see how well these bumpers adapt to Ross track...,  

Mitch 

M. Mitchell Marmel posted:

RWL posted:

 

Thanks Mitch,

I found a really good deal on a pack of six of these (lighted) from a guy on ebay. I bought them without questioning it they would work with Ross track. I believe they will be fine.

Thanks again for the info,

My pleasure!  Keep us posted; I'm curious to see how well these bumpers adapt to Ross track...,  

Mitch 

Will do. As soon as they come in I will attempt the modification. It should be fairly simple and straight forward.

I have them on my layout using Gargraves track. I put the front legs b at tween the ties and slide th hrm tight.

I can make these fit, but can not get them to light up at all.
I have even alligator clipped Hot and Common to the brass contacts, and non will light up.

Have you tested the bulbs?

@John H posted:

Have you tested the bulbs?

Seems odd that all 5 bulbs would be bat, but I suppose that is a possibility.

The direct hookup failure indicates to me that the bulbs are bad or the sockets have corrosion preventing good connections.

@John H posted:

The direct hookup failure indicates to me that the bulbs are bad or the sockets have corrosion preventing good connections.

These are really cheap bumpers.
The frames are very brittle, and the bulbs are all but impossible to remove in tact.
I will not be using them.

I agree with George - I use the bumpers as is on Ross track. I never had much luck with the copper tab for electrical connection so I pulled it out along with the lamp holder. I installed an 18VAC red lamp and either soldered the wires to the track or to the pin joiners. I glued in a Plastic SX-4 ring so the lamp would not fall through. I painted the bumper black, installed the lamp then soldered the wires to track connectors.
The lighted bumpers work great for isolated track spurs. I can tell at a glance if voltage is turned on for the spur.

I'm sorry I don't have a photo of the bumper on Ross track. Below is Atlas O track but the concept is the same. Solder the wires to Ross track connector pins.

Below is the Lionel bumper along with a wood and a plastic bumper I scratched built.