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Does any one have an original (new to you) 20-3046 plain tender and do you know if it came with the PS-2 style coupler and 6V or 1.5V bulb?

The 20-3026 and 3027 where the first two from 1998 and they were PS-1 with included hardware to backfit the tether to the N&W coal tenders for the J and the Y6b.  The 20-3046 I have did not have that hardware and has a PS-2 coupler.  This came out in 00 and would go with the PS-1 Class A which came out in 00 also.  The Class A coal tender had the tether pre-installed.  So I think that is correct, but not sure if the coupler is correct or if this is set up as PS-1.

Also, what would be the correct aux tender for the Unshrouded J, plain or stripe?  Does it matter?  G

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GGG posted:
Big Jim posted:

"Also, what would be the correct aux tender for the Unshrouded J, plain or stripe?  Does it matter? "

None, they didn't have them back in the early forties.

So they were never used in the 50s?  G

Don't believe that there were any "unshrouded J class" in the 1950s. Besides, the J Class locomotives didn't use auxiliary tends (canteen in N&W terms) in passenger service, back in the day anyway.

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GGG posted:
Big Jim posted:

"Also, what would be the correct aux tender for the Unshrouded J, plain or stripe?  Does it matter? "

None, they didn't have them back in the early forties.

So they were never used in the 50s?  G

The J1's (unstreamlined) were all streamlined and reclassified "J" by the end of 1945.

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I have the 20-3046 tender and it has a PS1 coupler and light bulb to go with the original PS1 Class A.  You are correct in that it did not come with the tether as the Class A already had it installed in the main tender from the factory.  The earlier two aux tenders for the PS1 J and the PS1 Y6b came with the engine tether since they were not factory installed when the engines were produced.  If I remember correctly, when I converted my PS1 J aux tender to work with my PS2 J (coupler and light bulb swap for PS2 counterparts), I also had to switch around the wires on the aux tender plug receptacle as the pin-out did not match the tether from the PS2 tender.  Since MTH released the J tender again for PS3, I have since acquired one of those (the color of the stripes match the PS2 version perfectly whereas the PS1 tender does not) and I plan to swap the LED for a PS2 light bulb since PS2 will not drive an LED without a resistor.  The older PS1 J tender will be painted black to be used with other engines.

I know Big Jim and Hot Water answered the second part of your question about the unstreamlined J and aux tenders but I thought I would give my thought.  I know it is not prototypical but I actually had a discussion with a friend of mine not too long ago about this and we both thought it would look good if a black N&W aux tender were run behind one of the unstreamlined J locomotives.  I've actually considered doing this myself after that conversation though I would have to buy an unstreamlined J first to make it a reality.  It falls into that category of "It's your railroad.  Do what you want whether it's prototypical or not."

Last edited by mountain482

I'm of a similiar opinion.  While not prototypical, I liked the look.  Note that there are not-so-subtle differences in the Norfolk and Western paint colors of the lettering between versions of the MTH tenders.  I have two without stripes.  One matches the 1997(ish) first Y6b.  It seems more "gold".  The 1218A seems to have more yellow.  My 605 unshrouded matches the 1218 better.  Sorry, I don't have the part numbers of the 1218 and 605 handy.  But I do think that the 20-3046 matches best.

Guys, thanks for all the help.  Bill, your info is very helpful.  It made sense the 3046 should go with the PS-1 Class A since the Class A was the only engine out in that time frame, but since it was 2000 it was also the transition period for PS-2 5V.  Mine is used and has the PS-2 coupler (which will work with PS-1)  So I will have to open and check the bulb since it may have been converted to work with PS-2.

I have the original PR PS-1 J with Stripe aux tender which I bought new and added the tether to the tender.  I picked up a Y6b at York with the 3027 plain tender, but used no aux tender box and the y6b tender tether was not added.   So I picked up another new 3027 tender anticipating using it for the unshrouded J and using the tether kit to convert the Y6b.  Yes the 3046 lettering is a brighter color and different print, compared to the others.  G

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