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We recently bought a new house, unfortunately no basement, but it has a very nice bonus/play room that will get a setup for the kids. However I also got a new job that caused me to take the office from an intended Cigar lounge to an actual office, since I work from home. So one day when work was slow, I started thinking about a shelf layout. Since the office is just over 12x12, I wanted to use O36 curves to minimize the overhang in the corners. Then I realized I also wanted to be able to reverse it, and wouldn't it be cool if the reverse loops were built into coffers in the ceiling. That generated this:

coffered_officer_square

 

 

Then I asked myself, what If I did the crossover on a diagonal?

Coffered office diagonal

 

 

Then, what if I did both, to where I could have a scalloped coffered ceiling? Give the office a really old school look, and lots of variety while we sit back and smoke cigars?

 

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That's when I made the mistake of clicking on the component tab, and finding out that my few hours of brainstorming had added up to >$4800!!

 

DANGEROUS. 

 

The scalloped one will never come to pass though, since it doesn't fit. But ohh, if it could!!

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Originally Posted by Chris Lord:

Wild!!  What track system?  How many linear feet?  Imagine programming a route with the Lionel ARC and watching it switch & switch & switch!

 

Of course if you built it you would spend the rest of your life repairing switches

Per RRTrack it says 141' 8.9" or 141 cars. Obviously not realistic, here's a simulated 51 car train

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So, my OCD, being a Taurus and retired Senior Chief Submariner kept saying "Get it done". It'll require cutting down the four 90 crosses, but...

 

I present it in 12.25'x12.25' !!!

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Now to convince my wife I need a glass ceiling or serious carpenters to do a scalloped coffered ceiling. It's a good thing she also likes trains!

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Originally Posted by Nuc Tuber:

So, my OCD, being a Taurus and retired Senior Chief Submariner kept saying "Get it done". It'll require cutting down the four 90 crosses, but...

 

I present it in 12.25'x12.25' !!!

 fancy small

 

Now to convince my wife I need a glass ceiling or serious carpenters to do a scalloped coffered ceiling. It's a good thing she also likes trains!


Far out!  Is this built yet? 

I completed a home office layout in addition to my main layout in a unused guest bedroom and as a location within the house, it's worked out fine. That being said, the reason for the agreement to put it there was due to it's relatively small size. As far as the design of your track plan goes goes, ( from my point of view) it stands on it's own as an original. Call it unique. However, as a materialized layout, to me, it seems like a mismatch of design to any sort of pragmatic use. The wiring would be contentious. Considering your proposed location, I think it's simply overly ambitious. Nice to look at on a piece of paper as piece of art.

I suggest scaling it back. 

Originally Posted by electroliner:

............... As far as the design of your track plan goes goes, ( from my point of view) it stands on it's own as an original. Call it unique. However, as a materialized layout, to me, it seems like a mismatch of design to any sort of pragmatic use....... 

I'd have to agree, I tend to look at layouts and measure how much I like them based on how many trains I could run simultaneously without risk of collisions.  Unless I missed it, it looks like the answer may be only 2, one on the extreme outer loop and one on the extreme inner loop.

 

I definitely think the pattern is cool as anything out there, and it would be awesome to try to think of switch settings that could cause the running train to automatically modify it's path as it progressed (assuming non-derailing switches, which FasTrack are if we are talking about remote). 

 

Unfortunately as Nuc Tuber found, the cost for such awesomeness is not insignificant in the track department!

 

-Dave

 

You guys are hilarious.

I posted this back in May, when I had gotten home from Japan, and prior to flying to Norfolk.

It's not built, like I said, can't afford it. If I could, you'd have completed/running pics. Maybe I'll set up a kickstarter donation account.

I'm including the RRT files for the large one, and the smaller one that would fit in my office if built. So yo can see the actual parts/price breakdown. I'd kill soem of that by buying 30in sections and custom cutting them down. COME ON LOTTERY!!!

I haven't given up the idea of a ceiling mounted/shelf layout in my office. It'll be simpler, but I was thinking of building it with a few log cars carrying cigars. Then when the guys are over, I can pull the appropriate car to the chute, and the cigar slides down to them in their seat. The other option is to make a tray that lowers the whole train down to seat height.

 

I build my layouts for fun, so Jay Jay, You're 100% correct, it's not prototypical. I also like symmetry (OCD) and the ability to reverse directions. I'm not afraid of turnouts, i was amazed how nicely the FasTrack switches functioned on last year's **** layout running on track voltage


BTW, my moniker, Nuc Tuber is due to being a retired Reactor Operator (Nuc) on Submarines (Tuber) . If you look at my Avatar, that's me having a cigar while running on the surface after departing Singapore. 

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Great Thread. good luck with you layout. 
 
BTW My dad was a submariner stationed in New London Ct in the early 1950's.  Other than some commendation papers from some of his accomplishments sure wish he had a photo like yours to show.
 
BTW a few years back I was on a two day cod fishing trip on the Georges Banks off cape cod and did get passed by a nuclear SUB. Everyone on the boat stopped fishing for a few minutes as it went by. Totally AWESOME sight!!
 
Originally Posted by Nuc Tuber:

You guys are hilarious.

I posted this back in May, when I had gotten home from Japan, and prior to flying to Norfolk.

It's not built, like I said, can't afford it. If I could, you'd have completed/running pics. Maybe I'll set up a kickstarter donation account.

I'm including the RRT files for the large one, and the smaller one that would fit in my office if built. So yo can see the actual parts/price breakdown. I'd kill soem of that by buying 30in sections and custom cutting them down. COME ON LOTTERY!!!

I haven't given up the idea of a ceiling mounted/shelf layout in my office. It'll be simpler, but I was thinking of building it with a few log cars carrying cigars. Then when the guys are over, I can pull the appropriate car to the chute, and the cigar slides down to them in their seat. The other option is to make a tray that lowers the whole train down to seat height.

 

I build my layouts for fun, so Jay Jay, You're 100% correct, it's not prototypical. I also like symmetry (OCD) and the ability to reverse directions. I'm not afraid of turnouts, i was amazed how nicely the FasTrack switches functioned on last year's **** layout running on track voltage


BTW, my moniker, Nuc Tuber is due to being a retired Reactor Operator (Nuc) on Submarines (Tuber) . If you look at my Avatar, that's me having a cigar while running on the surface after departing Singapore. 

DSC01539

 

Originally Posted by Ace:
Originally Posted by Nuc Tuber:

So, my OCD, being a Taurus and retired Senior Chief Submariner kept saying "Get it done". It'll require cutting down the four 90 crosses, but...

 

I present it in 12.25'x12.25' !!!

 fancy small

 

Now to convince my wife I need a glass ceiling or serious carpenters to do a scalloped coffered ceiling. It's a good thing she also likes trains!


Far out!  Is this built yet? 

Thanks for the compliment Ace. I value it after some of the layouts I've seen of yours on here.

Originally Posted by Nuc Tuber:

 

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I've gotta vote for the original design, it has all the grace and fluidity of the labyrinth in the floor of Chartres cathedral.  The 90 degree crossovers add a level of complexity that the revised version just lacks.  And the 45 degree crossovers with their completely unnecessary little by-pass sections, make it aesthetically just that much more compelling.

 

This thing is a work of art, my friends.  Somebody just has to build it.  With the right trains running, and a waltz playing in the background, it would be truly kaleidoscopic.  

 

Did you say shelf layout? That's a bit of a shelf. Maybe a G scale garden set-up with a ten-foot tall obelisk rising in the center?

 

 

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