LIONEL ANNOUNCES THE NEXT VISIONLINE LOCOMOTIVE...THE GG-1..!!!

Alex, I would be in for those.  My guess is a PRR T-1 with all the toys.  

I'll play underdog and say Metroliners with opening doors and what not (even though those odds are a million to one).
Can't see what you can make visionary about a GG1... It's a curvy brick that whurrs.  Auto pans and steam blowoff have already been done. What's left? Leaking steam fittings on the pilot? Same goes for a toaster. It's just hard to put tricks in an electric locomotive.
The T1 guys probably have it.

Or maybe a S-1

 

or maybe an E44 Flying Brick!

It's a 0-4-0 A1 switcher.

 

 

I like Lionel's move to the museum; it does provide an extra marketing buzz, plus you will be surrounded by real/prototype trains instead of just toy trains.

 

I would tend to believe that it won't be a V/L K4 since Lionel recently released the Legacy K4's.  (How about a K5?)  I do think it will be something from existing tooling that will be greatly enhanced.  The V/L GG1 would be interesting to see, but what else could Lionel offer other than Legacy to their most recent scale GG1 offering?  Old Rivets would be neat, but that would require tooling which I don't think Lionel is willing to invest in for such a limited audience.

 

Maybe the museum was chosen to feature a Strasburg RR engine?  But what I would really like to see (if Lionel has access to the tooling) would be a re-release of the K-Line Suburban Tank 4-6-6T w/ Legacy and whistle steam and of course a Lionmaster Legacy Hudson w/ whistle steam.

John, I remember you counting the days for the E44.  That pushed me to get the Conrail E44 and it is great.

Dave, you're probably right.  I guess the same would go for the Gang Car and Track Maintenance Car.

 

But upon further review of the RR Museum of Pennsylvania exhibits, my Crystal Ball says it will more likely will be this for the Vision Line 2016 entry:

 

The Vision Line Pantograph Transport Flat Car!

 

I go with the K4 or a 2-10 -4.  But what do I know I'm a B&O fan

IMHO if Lionel was smart, they would make a vision line usra 2-10-2. Then they could make it in Prr and other rr's too! Best part is no one has made the usra 2-10-2 in O gauge and I am not sure if it was made in O scale as well. These rr's also had the heavy usra 2-10-2 : Erie, B&LE, C&S, CB&Q! A nice nationwide coverage.

Concur with prrhorseshoecurve.  If Lionel were to go with new tooling, a PRR N2sa USRA 2-10-2 makes a lot of sense.  It was used by several roads, and its a large engine so it can hold all the goodies Lionel could put in it.

 

However, I also concur with others that Lionel may not invest in new tooling and do something similar with what they did with their Big Boy tooling.  If this is the case, I would hope Lionel worked out some agreement with MTH to allow Lionel to release a VL PRR T1. 

How about an all new tooling for Lionel:

 

4-4-6-4 PRR Q2

 

 

Oddly enough after the release of the VLBB its about all I could afford to buy.

If it is a Lionel engine bet the engineer will be waving as the engines goes by?

That would be nice!

 

Mike

It's gonna be a gg1 with a retail price tag of 1499 ..

Just pay the $10 (or $9, if you're old) and enjoy the museum and the announcement, then go over to the TCA.

 

2 cool places in one day.   I'd love to go if I could get there and wasn't doing a show at the other side of the country.

 

 

As far as speculation, I'll jump in:

 

A Vision Line burning switch tower with real flames  

 

 

Although the NYC did operate in Pennsylvania, there aren't any NYC locomotives at the museum, and I doubt Lionel will be unveiling a locomotive not represented at the museum. That would also eliminate the decapod, unless I misread the roster that NEPA kindly posted the link to.  Like NEPA, I would also like to see the L1s.

 

 

If you don't like paying admission to the museum, join the Friends of the RR Museum of Penna. and get in for free while helping to preserve the heritage that our hobby models.

http://www.rrmuseumpa.org/membership/join.shtml

 

Ohhhhhhhhhhh, my bad.

I thought this introduction was at the TCA Museum.

One would think a Pennsy loco. 

 

Not an Allegheny

Not an Acela

GG1 . . . . . Gee whiz, how much can you improve the JLC GG1's? I have all six and I don't think the sounds can be improved much, after all it is an electric. What are they going to add? Pantographs you can use under wire? Nah.

Mountain or K4? Enough pIzzaz?

T-1 or S-1? Kinda hard to get very excited.

Conundrum

 

PS: Lionel has already done two Vision Line offerings in Pennsy anyway. Now three?

My preference would be a Lion Chief+  T-1.  But that ain't happening.

Just what we need  Another Niagra or Hudson

I agree with Alex - the Niagara first, Hudson second

Originally posted by Marty Fitzhenry:

 My guess is a PRR T-1 with all the toys.

 

I do concur with this guess. I hope its this type:

 

and NOT the Two Demonstrators that MTH and 3rd rail have done to Death! I am in for a t1 for sure!

 

I've been hoping for a PRR N1 / N2 2-10-2 for a while.  Since it's the only, what I consider, PPR super power steam locomotive I don't have it's probably the only loco I'd be interested in paying a Vision Line price for.

 

Whatever it is, it'll be a beauty!

No the 2-10-4

This picture is of an as-built Baldwin T1 with the shrouding (with the portholes) covering the front cylinders.  The shrouding was removed soon after the engines were delivered to ease maintenance.

 

The version of the T1 Lionel built in 2000 represented the T1 latter in its short life with the shrouding removed.  I assume this will also be the version Lionel will release, if it does the T1,  since they should already have the tooling.  The issue is this engine was part of MTH's lawsuit and I think Lionel will need some sort of agreement with MTH before it is built again.  I just hope they use a different cab number from the first issue (5511).

 

Well, I scrolled through this thread and I think we're going to see another large Pennsy steamer.  My candidates (in order of probability):

1. T-1 (hasn't been done for awhile)
2. I1 Decapod (Lionel's never made this one)
3. J1 (hasn't been done in a longer while)
4. N1 (to my knowledge no one's made these in O)
5. N2 (ditto)
6. M1a/b - long shot given the Legacy version in recent years.

I guess we'll see.

 

George

Glad you agree too!!!! LOL!!!  We can pick them up at Dowsers on Dekalb ave !!!!!

 

Alex

 

No offense intended to the 98% of the membership here who seem to live east of the Mississippi.  But it would be nice to have a VL "non-east coast-centric" engine (and UP doesn't count.)

NP? GN? MR?

But that will never happen.  Lionel would only sell two units.

Never mind.

I honestly think it's going to be a diesel of some sort since the past few offerings have been steam. A vision F unit would be cool!

Timbo,

 

Right there with you!  Everyone else: lots of good wondering here as to which engine.  Final analysis:  doesn't matter much as whichever it is will be cost prohibitive, at least for most us. 

I'm with you on this one Michael, enough of all these steam offerings.

 

Jack

I have no inside information.  Nobody is talking.  I would still put my money on the T-1.  They are not going to trick out some smaller (less money) locomotive and do a big splash like this.

 

As a rule, I stay clear of that museum due to the fact they have a PRR icon (Rivets 4800) outside rotting away while nothing freight cars are inside.  

 

Lionel picked this location for a reason and my money is on a PRR locomotive.  Second thought would be the big red E unit that is inside.  I hope it is a T-1.

There's a General type steamer near the front window.

 

Maybe it will be the first Lionel General with factory installed command control.  (of course as Vision, making it scale and doing this would probably still be difficult)

 

-Dave

For my money  a pennsy K5 and do it in 2 rail as well.  It will sell like  crazy. It has never been done in o scale, make them  in 2 rail and 3 rail. 

  Just a dream!  Just a dream !    AS THE SONG GOES

I'm with John

Legacy E-44 --- please

 

If you lived in the Philly area you saw them everywhere

 

Joe S

I'm basically modeling NYC, so I agree. But truth be told, I would also be happy with the Allegheny, one of my favorites after reading a lot about the big steam era - but only if it has steam chest, blow down, Dynamo and whistle steam. Otherwise I'm all set with my Premier version at what was probably less than half the price.

 

Peter  

Thanks Ron.  Your memory is better than mine!

 

George

I too have been hoping to see this one done right, with all the bells and whistles, er, steam effects. Will keep my fingers crossed. Peter

It's gonna be the GG1.  This was on the local news this morning from Lancaster, Pa.

 

 

http://www.wgal.com/news/histo...-harrisburg/35895416